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Spotting Implications?

Thu Sep 13, 2001 7:44 am

Like matt d exlaimed, what to you think the implications are for spotting and photographing here in america. Do you think that they will be lenient of photographers in nearby parking lots or just outside the airfield fence snapping shots. Or will the areas around airports have M-1 tanks driving around it. I mean what does this mean for us aviation enthusiats???? I hope that the aviation hobby won't be killed as well as all of the innocent lives.
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RE: Spotting Implications?

Thu Sep 13, 2001 8:15 am

Are you guys dead out there????? C'mon this is a serious subject that applies to everyone here!
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RE: Spotting Implications?

Thu Sep 13, 2001 8:31 am

I don't think spotting or photography will be greatly affected. After all, that in itself doesn't constitute much of a security threat. But who knows? There might be a MASSIVE overhaul of the security system industry wide and photography might be banned, but i doubt it. Security measures need to be tightened, but not as far as that.

In the first few months, however, people might be a bit touchy about photograpers at airports and they might get moved on by security. But all in all, i don't see this as the end of the aviation hobby.

Regards, and my prayers to all those affected.
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RE: Spotting Implications?

Thu Sep 13, 2001 9:01 am

After the knee-jerk reaction has passed, I cant see viewing to be affected too much... I mean you can keep troublemakers away from the airport.. but if they are serious they'll just buy a ticket. And the major threat is from people that are serious, not people who are impulsive. *shrug*
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RE: Spotting Implications?

Thu Sep 13, 2001 9:15 am

Please see my topic, "Spotting and Security," in the aviation_hobby discussion.

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RE: Spotting Implications?

Thu Sep 13, 2001 9:52 am

I heard that no one without a ticket would be allowed in the gate area beyond security check-- that's where I always went to get pictures.  Sad

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RE: Spotting Implications?

Thu Sep 13, 2001 11:49 am

Spotting at my airport which is a Class C airport that is semi-busy is basically prohibited. As a CFI I used to have full access to the GA ramp at ABE (Allentown, PA) airport. However, today I went to get some photo's of the diverted aircraft but wasn't allowed on the GA ramp and the airport was being circled continuously by one cop car after another...looked like a train of police cars. I was told by the FBO that I would be questioned immediately if stopping anywhere along the perimeter of the airport for photography. I went there as I heard that a Continental 757 from Shannon to EWR diverted here but I did not see it and its not the easiest thing to hide a 757. So yes, spotting may never be what it once was. This may be for the best despite how much I love watching airliners land. Safety first everyone! The only diversion of any interest was a Dornier 328 jet from ACA...the first in the Lehigh Valley. May God bless all those impacted by this tragedy...what purpose did all this carnage serve? Guess I'm just another vulnerable American who never thought this could've happened here. I'm honestly rethinking my career despite having a degree as a Professional Pilot. Thats how close to home this has hit.

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RE: Spotting Implications?

Thu Sep 13, 2001 12:01 pm

We need to let the authorities know that we are good for them. Those of us who visit airports on a regular basis often know before the airport police when something is out of place. At my home airports, TUS/PHX, the airport police are used to seeing me around. Especially TUS. They know me here and, even before this tragedy, often stopped and asked me if I've seen anything out of place.
Might not be a bad idea, when visiting a strange airport, to announce yourself and be VERY obvious what you are doing. At MZJ when we see someone who is very obvious trying to find a good shot from the perimeter, we don't worry much We see them but don't worry much. It's those people that try to hide that we worry about.

Go about your spotting. Just realize that there will be much nervousness for a while.

Regards to all and prayers for those many who lost loved ones.
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RE: Spotting Implications?

Thu Sep 13, 2001 12:21 pm

If you think it was bad with the rent-a-cops chasing you from car-parks and perimeter fences up to now - forget it.

It'll we real guns and real cops

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RE: Spotting Implications?

Thu Sep 13, 2001 12:27 pm

It already is real Police officers and real guns.
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RE: Spotting Implications?

Thu Sep 13, 2001 12:54 pm

It will definately have an impact as it did during the Gulf War and TWA #800. Hysteria and paranoia will make many passengers (rightfully so) leary of spotters.

But just wait a few months, security will be relaxed and we won't have to use plastic forks anymore.

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