j_hallgren
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So Why Is Curb Check-in A Risk? Curious..

Thu Sep 13, 2001 1:31 pm

Ok, so bear with me...I don't get it...what makes curb check-in any more risky than at counter? Just because of quality of people who do that work? And will that mean end of sky-caps? Someone who checks a bag at counter could also not get on plane, right? So what is reason? Maybe answer is buried in another topic...if so, where? Thanks!
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j_hallgren
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RE: So Why Is Curb Check-in A Risk? Curious..

Mon Sep 17, 2001 11:09 am

Was there an answer to my question somewheres?
If so, haven't found it yet...
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redngold
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RE: So Why Is Curb Check-in A Risk? Curious..

Mon Sep 17, 2001 11:12 am

One more place to guard, I would assume. Possibility of confusion over whose luggage is whose, if people are milling around and many people are talking at once. That kind of problem.

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L-188
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RE: So Why Is Curb Check-in A Risk? Curious..

Mon Sep 17, 2001 4:28 pm

The short answer is....It wasn't a problem

IMHO

The FAA ordered it closed because the elimination was really obvious and would give the impression that they(The FAA) where really jacking up the security.

There are a bunch of other recent changes that they announced that also fit into that catagory.
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RE: So Why Is Curb Check-in A Risk? Curious..

Mon Sep 17, 2001 4:35 pm

It isn't a problem. It never was a problem. Name the last hijacker who curbside checked a bag? Didn't think so.
 
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RE: So Why Is Curb Check-in A Risk? Curious..

Mon Sep 17, 2001 10:16 pm

I agree that it doesn't seem to be a problem. Once things settle down and cooler heads prevail, many of these new procedures could be reconsidered. But, for the next few weeks, it's stiff upper lip time. Be patient and enjoy your flight.
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contrails
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RE: So Why Is Curb Check-in A Risk? Curious..

Mon Sep 17, 2001 10:18 pm

I think it is because the skycaps don't issue boarding passes. The FAA wants the holder of the baggage to be asked if they have packed their own baggage, etc., although those questions would never deter a terrorist.
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goingboeing
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RE: So Why Is Curb Check-in A Risk? Curious..

Mon Sep 17, 2001 10:23 pm

It's eye candy, pure and simple. Supposedly the bags are going to get scanned. What difference does it make if the bag is checked curbside or in the terminal? It doesn't. It's all done so that when you go to the airport and find these security delays, you might think that they really stepped up security, when in fact, the only thing that was changed was the shine on the security guards shoes, and they can't drink a coke while on duty. Other than that, it's pretty much the same as it was.
 
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RE: So Why Is Curb Check-in A Risk? Curious..

Mon Sep 17, 2001 10:34 pm

"Goingboeing", you make a great point (and the others too for that matter).

By now we've either seen or heard about the news story with the security screener sleeping on duty at the x-ray machine. Whether it is true or not doesn't matter, it illustrates how little is actually being done to promote our safety. They figure that making some cosmetic changes will make the traveling public more trusting.
Sure, the FAA will say that reducing curbside eliminates the possibility of somone slipping something on your bag while you're not looking, or about the proximity of the cars to the terminal and car-bombs and on and on...
I'd almost be willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that a year from now it will be back to the way it was (if not sooner!). Hopefully, I'm wrong.
anyways, just my 2 cents,
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DfwRjCapt
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RE: So Why Is Curb Check-in A Risk? Curious..

Tue Sep 18, 2001 12:36 am

A week before the disaster, after our aircraft had been boarded and was ready to leave the gate in SAT, the gate agent handed me the paperwork and commented offhand that there were two bags in the baggage compartment whose owner was going to miss the flight. Without hesitating, I said, "okay, get them off the airplane." I was told that I didn't understand: these bags belonged to a Skymiles gold medalion customer, and that they routinely ship checked bags for these people without them being aboard. I replied, "B.S. Get those bags off my airplane."
Does it really take a rocket scientist to realize what it COULD mean if someone puts something on an airplane and then doesn't board himself?
The problem with curbside check-in is that it makes doing that even easier. You wouldn't even have to enter the terminal. Suppose there had been an explosive device in one of those bags, and the agent and I hadn't done anything about it?

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