favre
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Flt Attendent Exodus!

Sun Sep 16, 2001 8:49 am

about 400 nwa f/a's quit on thursday and about 1500 on stress leave due to worries about safety..how many from other airlines??
BAE 146 ARJ CV-580 YS-11 SH360 DASH8 SAAB340 EMB 120-135-145-175 DC9/10/30/40/50 MD80/90 DC10 717 727 737 747 757 767 77
 
chepos
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RE: Flt Attendent Exodus!

Sun Sep 16, 2001 8:58 am

I haven't heard anything about other airlines f/a quitting the jobs.
Chepos
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johnboy
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RE: Flt Attendent Exodus!

Sun Sep 16, 2001 9:00 am

i dunno bout that, but i spoke with my friend who's a F/A with WN. she says she loves her job too much to quit, but she knows things will never be the same again. she also said they pulled a suspicious character off the plane in SJC yesterday. guess he fit a new profile.
 
fly_emirates
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RE: Flt Attendent Exodus!

Sun Sep 16, 2001 9:01 am

they shouldnt have done so!
 
skyhawk
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RE: Flt Attendent Exodus!

Sun Sep 16, 2001 9:19 am

Fly_emirates - Forgive me please, but why do you think this person should not have been pulled off the plane? Because he fit a profile? If on Tuesday United and American had known that something was in the works, and there was a "profile", then maybe 5,000+ people would not have died needlessly. I don't mean to sound like I am "coming down" on each and every person from the Middle East, I'm not but facts are facts. The people that did this act are from that part of the world. They had every intention of committing murder and they did. Let us be overly careful now if need be to prevent something like this from happening again. From one fllight attendant to another, don't you want your cabin safe and secure? Best to you in the future...

God bless America
 
NAACREW
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RE: Flt Attendent Exodus!

Sun Sep 16, 2001 10:11 am

Skyhawk: I agree with you 100%. I think its high time that America quits being so damn politically correct about who we offend in this world!

And I for one have my doubts that I will be returning to my job as F/A.
 
BaliMorris
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RE: Flt Attendent Exodus!

Sun Sep 16, 2001 10:25 am

Was Fly_Emirates saying that they should not have pulled someone off the aircraft or was he/she saying that the flight attendants should not have quit their jobs?
 
skyhawk
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RE: Flt Attendent Exodus!

Sun Sep 16, 2001 12:03 pm

BaliMorris - In my opinion I think that Fly_emirates was saying that the individual should not have been taken off the plane-"they shouldn't have done that". That type of statement would refer to more than one person and Johnboy to who Fly_emirates was answering, had indicated that his friend(only one person not more) was considering not going back to her job after she got a little to close to Tuesday's tragedy.
 
hammer
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RE: Flt Attendent Exodus!

Sun Sep 16, 2001 10:24 pm

I agree totally with FAVRE...there were alot of F/A's that quit...can't really blame them after all this...there will be alot more too..
 
copter808
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RE: Flt Attendent Exodus!

Mon Sep 17, 2001 2:56 am

Let me start by saying that I'm a great supporter of the airline industry, as well as ALL those who work in it. I have the greatest respect for all the flight crews.

Having said that, I think that their departure was probably a good idea. If they're that afraid of what "could" happen, how would they have reacted in an actual emergency? Remember, their PRIMARY responsibilty is SAFETY, not the passenger's personal comfort. Far more police officers and firemen were killed this week, than flight attendants. How many police and firemen have quit? I'll bet you can't find more than one or two--and probably NONE!!!

Even in todays state of affairs, I'll bet that for every one that leaves, there will be several who would be waiting in line for the job.
 
wing
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Skyhawk

Mon Sep 17, 2001 3:31 am

" I don't mean to sound like I am "coming down" on each and every person from the Middle East, I'm not but facts are facts. The people that did this act are from that part of the world. "
Oh yes and also we shouln't let the people from Oklohama in our buildings because the Federal building bomber was from that part of the world.
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lmml 14/32
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RE: Flt Attendent Exodus!

Mon Sep 17, 2001 4:09 am

Let's be honest, it is very tempting to simply put one third of the entire population of this planet in one basket and send them all on camels. But where will this get us? In reality, there a only a handful of fanatics for whom life, even their own, is worthless. Unfortunately some of these fanatics may decide the fate of the planet. It was one thing in the 70's, it is a whole new frightening scenario now in the 21st century. Whether you are a flight attendant or an employee of a computer company sitting in a comfortable downtown office with a view there is no difference. The danger is there for all of us. I have absolutely no intention of quitting flying.
NAACrew > do not take rash decisions.
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skyhawk
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RE: Flt Attendent Exodus!

Mon Sep 17, 2001 4:39 am

Wing-I see that you asr a F/O on a 737, is that correct? Let me ask you something. As a crewmember would you accept an individual on your plane if he/she blatently fit a published profile of someone from a terrorist group? As a former F/A I would hope not. Granted that not all persons from the Middle East are terrorists, in fact those that I have known from trips over there and from crewmembers that I used to fly with were realy fine people. But that is what profiles are all about. Searching out those who MIGHT have another agenda on their minds. Myself, I would hope that you would err on the side of safety and if someone happens to get a ittle upset, then an apology can be offered. All of this being said, I do hope that you stay safe and secure in your job and thank God that we live in a counrty that allows us to have a debate along this line. God bless you and God bless America.
 
deltaflyertoo
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RE: Flt Attendent Exodus!

Mon Sep 17, 2001 5:19 am

Skyhawk: You say it best!!

Also people, remember no one is getting hurt here. It isn't as if security personel are boarding these planes and ripping people from their seats and then beating them. It is just simple percaution. Although I do not fit any profile, should I ever be accousted and asked to leave a plane from here on out, it would be my pleasure. I know in my heart that I would get an apology, get things cleared up and be on my way. Everyone here should feel the same way.
 
wing
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RE: Flt Attendent Exodus!

Mon Sep 17, 2001 6:04 am

Dear skyhawk,I totally agree on your concern about safety and sure thing is, it will never be the same again,security will be tightened and each and everyone of us in the aircraft must be more careful even this sometimes leads to unwanted but upsetting things.I would always decide in favor of not accepting a suspicious character on board or atleast double searched not to end up like crews(Heroes in my opinion I am sure they did every necessary action to avoid) of American and United Airlines of that disaster.
Dear skyhawk I started my words using your username but not all my words against you,from your second post I can understand that you are never against any race and religion or nation but just a concerned retired industry professional,
my reaction was against that the terrorists may be from middle east countries,but its "racism" to say every Muslim,every middle eastern is terrorist.And unfortunately I am reading some bloodthirsty posts in this forum as well as some unwanted incidents like attacking to businesses or homes of the people solely because of their origin is eastern or they believe to another religionaround the country.
Last Tuesday was behind the imagination of any normal people that was act of a sick brain.Sure same as everybody I am angry too.I want the the ones who are responsible broght to justice and terror acts to be finished in every part of the world.But we have to act like civilised people or else we wouldn't have any difference from "them".Revenge seems the only way to estinguish the fire in our hearts but in long term it will increase the fire .For example in the middle east between Israel and Palestine.One day one Israel attacks to Palestine innocent people dies and the the next day Palestine takes revenge and innocent pople from Israeli side dies this time and Israelis takes revenge then the Palestineans again and this goes on for months.Hundreds of civillians dies on the way to their work or in a bus stop or at amarket place.Everytime somebody dies from either side the anger between the sides grows largerI gave this example only trying to explain revenge is not what we have to look for but "justice"must be.Which should teach "them"you can't get away with this anymore.And after that who ever thinks to kill innocent people and hide in a safe haven must think and think again.
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skyhawk
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RE: Flt Attendent Exodus!

Mon Sep 17, 2001 7:44 am

First to Wing - I really am glad that this terrible misunderstanding has been cleared up, but once again let me apologize to you for my first impression. Like you I only want the individuals responsible for these acts to be the ones that are held accountable for what happened. It was horrendous and I hope that something as horrible as this never comes to pass again.

To Deltaflyertoo - thanks so much for your very kind words of support. They mean a lot to me.

Lastly, to LMML 14/32, I tried the E-mail address that is listed on your bio and the message came back as undeliverable for some reason. Why don't you try mine.

God bless America
 
skyhawk
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RE: Lmml 14/32

Tue Sep 18, 2001 7:13 am

Has there been any changes to your E-mail address? Tried it and the message got returned. Hope your trips are going well and glad to hear that you are staying with the job. Try my address. Best wishes, Skyhawk