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What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 11:52 am

I am only guessing here, but look for all the DC10's and a substantial number of MD80's and some 737-300's to
be sent to Marana very soon. What routes do you think
will be cut?

I suppose many transatlantic and transpacific will go.

What do you think?

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deltaflyertoo
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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 11:56 am

Good question, but tough answers.

IMO, I agree with you, I see all the remaining MD-80s and DC-10s going, that should be about 20%.

As for routes, in another thread someone is saying that CLE will be cut. Who knows if that is true though.

It pains me to think that EWR might be cutback.
 
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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 11:58 am

Only thing for sure is DUS STN are gone and 737's are not being touched yet. DC-10's are grounded temporary and 33 MD-80's about half will be grounded a.s.a.p.
 
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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 12:09 pm

I have faith in the American people and my company that we will come out of this not only alive, but stronger than ever.
 
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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 12:15 pm

Damn straight!
 
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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 1:16 pm

Cleveland - Gatwick has been eliminated according to Continental's own website
 
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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 1:23 pm

Well, the time has come. I have been saying this for many a month now, that CO would either make or break CLE-LGW, and it has now come to the lesser of the two. I've said before that the only reason for CLE-LGW was because of BP gasoline. Now that they are gone, the flight wasn't doing good, now with the recent horrible disaster and the rapid decline in air travel, it has suffered the final blow. Cleveland is now a minimal International airport once again, with the only International flights being to Canada, a country only served by Continental Express from CLE.
 
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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 1:33 pm

Why can't CO wait until US congressmen will talk to all airlines executives next week? Please don't be silly action too soon! Keep operating. Wait and see if Monday stocks are going up and so keep business stable. Please God help us. Hope CO is doing okay!

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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 1:35 pm

This is kinda related to this...but I've been planning a trip to Japan with Northwest and I was wondering how I could be affected by cutbacks, any ideas? Routes?
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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 1:37 pm

I forgot about CLE-LGW flt 18 will go to a 757
 
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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 1:37 pm

Please help CO do OK!!! I don't know would either IAH-GUM or GUM-NRT be dropped?
 
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Co/ba

Sun Sep 16, 2001 1:53 pm

Co/ba, you said CLE-LGW flt 18 will become 757, well, the original flight was 66, and it always was 757, never any widebodies here from CO. I looked through their schedule, and there are no more direct flights from CLE to LGW, so CLE is now CO's narrow-body playground. It's basically a hub where all the flights wind up at the same contiguous 48 states, or however many states CO serves, that their EWR and IAH hubs have.

Something to ponder, if CO pulls out of CLE, that's almost one whole concourse left empty. Maybe we could get jetBlue and AirTran here then.
 
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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 1:57 pm

flt 18 is EWR to LGW with 767 which is being downgraded I was aware that 66 was CLE to LGW. What I org was trying to say was that along with the cancelation of flt 66 flt 18 will downgrade equip. sorry about any confusion
 
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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 7:37 pm

I really can't see the CLE hub being totally wiped out. I think it would need to be handy if any of the New York airports get shut down for any reason in the future.
The Gordon Bethune press conference even made it onto Australian TV news tonight.
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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 10:14 pm

The CLE hub will not be totally dismantled. Economics, strangly enough, will dictate that. Even though CO is laying off 12000 employees, they won't all come from CLE, since it will be done by seniority. If you did completely reduce CLE to flights to EWR, IAH, and maybe a few other cities, CO would have to relocate a ton of more senior agents to other stations-the one's that wouldn't be furloughed. There are 4100 employees in CLE, so that's nearly impossible.

I think CLE-LGW, like the furloughs, it temporarily gone. CO has seen that the flight does very well in the peak times of year-better than they expected. But with cutbacks in feeder traffic, it's obvious the route needs to be shelved until economic conditions get better. CO will ask to keep that route, and the US government, and probably the British government, will let them keep the rights to the route.

I had a friend tell me she's heard that CO will go down to like 30 mainline and 100 COEX flights aday. That's a cutback of almost 150 flights a day. Personally, I don't think it will be quite that drastic, but there will be deep cuts.

I also think you'll see the MD-80s and DC-10's retired early, along with a bunch of Turboprops. I think they might furlough the remainder of the aircraft orders they have for a while, with the possible excpetion being the ERJ-145xr, which they start getting next year.
 
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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 10:28 pm

Having just been part of Ansett closing down, gee I hope that CO can find a way out of this! I really feel for those 12,000 employees!

I can't believe it! I thought Continental were one of the only airlines to post a profit in the last year, all seemed to be going so well for them - great boss, great staff, great new aircraft!

Those terrorists have a lot to answer for - the devastation has spread far and wide!

Best of luck CO!

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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 11:35 pm

Please be aware that 90% of these cutbacks, layoffs, and downgrades are going to be temporary. I am positive CLE-LGW will be back on our route map as soon as the dust settles on this and people begin to return to air travel en masse. We worked long and hard for the rights to operate this route, and it will be reinstated.
 
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Thought On Stock Market Reopening

Sun Sep 16, 2001 11:45 pm

To begin, I would like to say I am thoroughly shocked by the events of Tuesday's terrorist attacks, and express my deepest condolences to anyone who has lost their life in the attack or in the process of rescuing survivors.

Now, we all know that the NYSE will reopen Monday morning at 9:30EST. Some analysts are predicting Doomsday, with everyone and their brother unloading their worth in a worldwide freefall of stock prices. This must not be allowed to occur.

My request to all on the forum is not to sell anything and everything, but instead to go out on Monday and buy a share or two of any company, whatever your financial constraints may allow. This will keep prices at least from taking a nosedive, and will show the true American spirit, and prove the faceless terrorists wrong once again.

Thank you for your time.
 
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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Mon Sep 17, 2001 1:08 am

the money market can't take the brunt of everyone offloading stocks, to be honest...

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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Mon Sep 17, 2001 1:18 am

What CO is doing is preparing for the worst.
 
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RE: What Routes, Planes Will CO Cut?

Mon Sep 17, 2001 1:21 am

Were is all this info on CO's website? I cannot find any info stating CLE-LGW, EWR-DUS, and other routes are ending.
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