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Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 10:40 am

Just curious if anyone knew who was pushing these things to their distance limits.
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 11:04 am

Some of the longest MD-80 flights that I know of are
AA ORD-LAX
AA ORD-SAN

TW STL-LAX
TW MCO-SJU

I don't know the exact distances on those flights, sorry.
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 11:08 am

I heard someone said DL can do ATL-LAX non-stop
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 11:10 am

Im pretty sure it is ORD-LAX
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 11:18 am

YX MKE/LAX and MKE/SFO. I think SFO is actually further away than LAX. I'll check on SABRE tomorrow.
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 11:19 am

About 10 years ago, a Scandinavian carrier was flying charters to FLL via Gander NF (either Finnair from Helsinki or Transwede from Stockholm) with MD-83's. Not sure which.....I think Transwede.

La Tur (defunct Mexican charter) used to fly Toronto-Cancun with MD-83's. 4 hr flight. About the same as ORD-LAX in distance.



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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 11:41 am

In the early-to-mid-90s AA scheduled one nonstop IAD-LAX.
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 11:45 am

Alaska Airlines; San Francisco - Anchorage.
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 11:52 am

I've been on some of these long routes on the MD-80 such as ORD-LAX. I really like the MD-80, but not exactly on that long of a routes. If I'm going to be on a 4.5 hour flight, I'm much rather be on a 757 or 738 than an MD-80. However, the More Room in Coach and new seats made vast improvements into what it would've been like before.
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 11:56 am

It will probably be MEX-SLC to be launched on December by Aeromexico.
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 12:25 pm

TWA has operated STL-SJU (2025 miles) reguarly over the past couple years nonstop. There was also the rare equipment sub of the SFO-JFK red-eye one night from 757 to MD-80 (search previous posts in this forum). That's *really* stretching the legs.

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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 12:30 pm

A few years ago Alaska Airlines used to operate LAX-YYZ-LAX nonstop with MD-83s. That is just over 5 hours flying time for that aircraft. That route only lasted about 1 year though. Not sure who has the longest now.
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 12:57 pm

Spirit does LAX-DTW, I don't think it is the longest currently... And I think I remember DL being able to do LAX-ATL, ATL-LAX needed a fuel stop... I'm still a rookie so I don't know for sure...
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 1:49 pm

Hello,

At Seatac a few years ago I saw a red eye flight loading up for Boston on American Airlines. The plane was an MD-83. So I guess you could say American Airlines flew SEA-BOS on a MD-83. Sounds impossible but you can get some strong tailwinds on that route. No way it could make it going the other way.

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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 5:32 pm

In the late -80's,SAS flew Copenhagen-Jeddah with MD-83's specially bought for that route (+ CPH-TLV).
In my logbook,flight time to JED was 6:30 hours,we used Riyadh as alternate.That's another 1:25 hours.
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 5:40 pm

In France AOM used to fly from CDG to DKK(Dakar) which is more than 5 hours of flying time as well from ORY to HGR/LXR (Hurgadha and Luxor in Egypte) within 5hrs with their MD83.
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 8:55 pm

Actually the SJU-STL route is now being flown by the 757. In the past it used to be operated with the MD-80. Someone mentioned SJU-MCO as stretching the limit- well not really thats just a 2 hour 15 monute flight. TWA used to operate SJU-BOS with a MD-80 thats a bit long in my opinion.
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Wed Sep 19, 2001 9:13 pm

Continental did / do have a flight LGA - DEN which seemed pretty long for MD80
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RE: SFO-ANC

Thu Sep 20, 2001 2:32 am

Alaska now flies 737-700s on that route, as well as LAX-ANC. But, both were former MD-83 routes.
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Thu Sep 20, 2001 2:38 am

Swissair has a nonstop flight from ZRH to Baku (Azerbaijan) which is operated with a MD-83.
Flight distance is 2093 nautrical miles...quite a long flight.

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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Thu Sep 20, 2001 2:53 am

I remember that YP (Aero Lloyd) has flown in the 90`s with the MD 80 from Germany to Egypt and Jordan (5 hours flight duration).

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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Thu Sep 20, 2001 3:30 am

Finnair has flown Helsinki-Funchal (6hrs) charters on MD83's, the flight is flown with B757-200's now.

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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Thu Sep 20, 2001 3:42 am

''About 10 years ago, a Scandinavian carrier was flying charters to FLL via Gander NF (either Finnair from Helsinki or Transwede from Stockholm) with MD-83's. Not sure which.....I think Transwede.''

It was Transwede. They also flew to Colombo with a fuelstop or two ..
MD80's have also been used by Scanair, Transwede, SAS and Spanair on charters from Scandinavia to Las Palmas. That is a 5 1/2 hour trip.

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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Thu Sep 20, 2001 3:42 am

I read somewhere here that Alaska used to fly Seattle to Vladivostok with a stopover in Anchorage with their MD-80's. Apparently one still has a washroom sign in Russian!

 
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LN-MOW

Thu Sep 20, 2001 5:07 am

It's correct that we flew SAS MD-82's to Las Palmas from Gardermoen,but always with a fuel stop in Bordeaux.
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Thu Sep 20, 2001 6:05 am

That Alaska Airlines MD-80 that went down was flying from Puerto Vallarta to SFO, that looks pretty far...

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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Thu Sep 20, 2001 6:17 am

Alaska Airlines never flew to YYZ, not sure where that one came from.....

The former Russian Far East Routes that Alaska flew from Anchorage (not from Seattle) were on their MD-83s have got to be the longest. Anchorage to Magadan (about 4.5 hours) and on to Khavborosk and Vladivostok.

Interesting to note that on those flights they filled the airplane totally up w/fuel and then planned on taking reservations only up to a certain point to make the airplane be at its MGTOW. Cargo was limited as well. Fuel in Russia was paid for in CASH only.

I would much rather be on an MD-80 for a long flight rather than a widebody or even another narrowbody, many less middle seats on an MD than a 757 or 737.
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Thu Sep 20, 2001 6:29 am

In June, 2000, I flew ANC-LAX non-stop on a MD-83 of Alaska Airlines: 2,346 miles

Since then, AS has switched to 73G as the regular equipment on this route.
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Thu Sep 20, 2001 6:30 am

Hi:

I think that the longer MD-80 route are:

AR EZE-SCZ-CCS
AR EZE-LIM
AA ORD-LAX
AV BOG-MIA

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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Thu Sep 20, 2001 7:03 am

The Northwest MD-80 that crashed in '87 was supposed to fly DTW-PHX.
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Just For The Record...

Thu Sep 20, 2001 8:43 am

...several (?) sites give approximate "great circle"distances between "any" two airports-- http://www.landings.com and don't recall what others. But if you want correct distances you have to get the coordinates from http://www.airnav.com or http://worldaerodata.com and then use Ed Williams' distance calculator http://www.best.com/~williams/gccalc.htm.

Without checking all the possibilities mentioned, I'm betting on ANC-LAX as a historical maximum. STL-SJU is 1759 nm so is a good possibility for current champ.
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Thu Sep 20, 2001 8:58 am

ANC-LAX is 2038 nm; that beats IAD-LAX and YYZ-LAX (which Alaska at least proposed flying, a few years back).
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Thu Sep 20, 2001 9:03 am

Alaska definitely flew LAX-YYZ, about 6-7 years ago. Only AS service into YYZ. 2x daily MD-80. Service lasted about 18 months.
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RE: Alaska

Thu Sep 20, 2001 9:08 am

The Alaska a/c that were flown to Russia and between LAX-ANC had extended fuel tanks. AS still has all three of these a/c, although they don't seem to use them on long-range flights anymore.

Woodsboy---Alaska flew LAX-YYZ back in 1992-3.
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Thu Sep 20, 2001 10:29 am

After a little research....
ORD/LAX 1746 air miles, but AA doesn't use the MD80 on that anymore.
MKE/LAX 1750 air miles. YX still uses MD81/82/88s
MKE/SFO 1883 air miles. YX still flys them with MD88s only.
 
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RE: Longest MD-80 Route?

Thu Sep 20, 2001 10:53 am

CAL used to do CLE-LAX with the -80. They still do IAH SFO with the 80 a time or two a day.
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