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Who Really Invented The Airplane?

Mon Sep 24, 2001 5:34 pm

Do you think it was Richard Pearce, Orville Wright, or Wilbur Wright.
 
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RE: Who Really Invented The Airplane?

Mon Sep 24, 2001 5:37 pm

Clement Ader
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RE: Who Really Invented The Airplane?

Mon Sep 24, 2001 5:50 pm

powered plane that could really ffly.
 
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RE: Who Really Invented The Airplane?

Mon Sep 24, 2001 5:56 pm

I think there's pretty strong circumstancial evidence to support Pearse's claim.
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RE: Who Really Invented The Airplane?

Mon Sep 24, 2001 7:26 pm

Leonardo Da Vinci
 
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RE: Who Really Invented The Airplane?

Mon Sep 24, 2001 9:18 pm

Huh..... There goes my historical belief.... ALWAYS thought it were the wright brothers who really invented flying.

Can anyone post some nice homepage, which (s)he recommendates of the history of flying?

Tnx in advance,
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RE: Who Really Invented The Airplane?

Mon Sep 24, 2001 10:12 pm

The Wrights created the first "semi-practical" aircraft. They did it first. The first truly practical airplane was a Curtiss, it had an ailerons because the Wrights wouldn't license wing warping. It's a good thing they did, can you imagine warping the wing of a 747?

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RE: Who Really Invented The Airplane?

Mon Sep 24, 2001 11:22 pm

You revisionists make me sick.
 
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RE: Who Really Invented The Airplane?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 1:33 am

The Wright brothers were the first to fly in December of 1903. The controversy in question centered around the Wright Brothers and their archrival, Samuel Langley, who was a well learned scientist. Everyone at the time expected Langley to be successful. He had no shortage of funding, no shortage of media coverage or assistants. The Wright brothers, on the other hand, were untrained, mostly self-taught, broke, and were considered by everyone as having very little chances of getting off the ground. Well, as fate would have it, the Wright Brothers became airborne on the 17th of December, over four successful runs. When people caught word of this, they all refused to believe that the Wrights brothers could have outdone such a distinguished scientist as Langley. The Smithsonian Institute, much to their unending shame, remained loyal to Langley (who was assistant secretary), and named him as the official inventor of flight. Long after Langley passed away, the Smithsonian managed to get their hands on his original plane, had it modified to the Wrights Brothers' specifications, and put it on display as the first plane in flight. I guess the shame became too much to bear, for about 40 years later, they finally admitted to what was done, changed the display, and correctly credited the Wrights Brothers.
 
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RE: Who Really Invented The Airplane?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 2:38 am

The first object with 2 wings, and an engine that has left the ground has been built by Clement Ader.( Eole and AvionIII)
Was it a flight? Was it a jump?
Call is as you want, but it just left the ground...
And it was before 1900....
And the words Avion and Aviation have been created by Ader.
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RE: Who Really Invented The Airplane?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 2:55 am

where ader or pearce from New Zealand? "cause when I visited down under they all adamantly believed some Kiwi was first, despite a complete lack of any creadible evidence.
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RE: Who Really Invented The Airplane?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 4:04 am


I believe the basic idea was from Leonardo D'Avinci, of course he had no way to put his idea into practice.

The first real aircraft was Brazilian's Santos Dumond, flown in France.

The 16-Bis (if I am not wrong)

Was the first airplane, because it was the first to take off by it's own means, and land, in the same manner.

(The Wright brothers designed a equipment that was catapulted)
 
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Erj190

Tue Sep 25, 2001 5:00 am

The Wright Brother's plane was not catapult launched. The film clip you are referring to was a catapult which enabled quick take offs for military purposes. ALL the Wright aircraft were capable of taking off from flat land unassisted.

Lindy field: I don't mean to be revisionist, but The Wright's were the first to TRULY fly, the others (including Langley) just fell with style. However the invention of the alieron is what made modern aircraft possible. Curtiss/Bell get quite a lot of credit for inventing it, however they only did that because the Wright's sued them for copyright infringement. Therefor The Wright Brothers were the first people to fly.

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RE: Who Really Invented The Airplane?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 5:09 am

Regarding Richard Pearse, here's the link to some info I posted a while ago...

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/541940
 
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RE: Who Really Invented The Airplane?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 8:59 am

Actually the Wright Brothers invented the glider,
Santos Dumont invented the airplane.
 
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RE: Who Really Invented The Airplane?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 9:48 am


Hmmm... this entire debate skirts the issue of a proper definition of the term "airplane" and of "first flight" as opposed to the concept of airplanes.

Leonardo da Vinci = concept of air flight, therefore the precursor to first flight and finally adaptation of these concepts to first practical (read actual) use - Wright brothers.

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