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"Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"

Wed Sep 26, 2001 12:30 pm

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Chances of Ansett flying are growing says Combet

Source: AAP|Published: Wednesday September 26, 9:22 AM



Unions were willing to negotiate on employee issues in a bid to get Ansett back in the air, ACTU secretary Greg Combet said today.

However, Mr Combet said pay cuts for staff were not an "attractive" option.

The chances of Ansett flying again were "growing each day", with at least two rescue plans put forward to achieve this, Mr Combet said.

Administrators have proposed the government waive some fees and charges and provide a guarantee on tickets for passengers flying with a resurrected Ansett.

The union's own proposed rescue plan involves the administrators drawing up a viable business, backed by federal government funding.

Mr Combet said the Howard government needed to publicly acknowledge it wanted Ansett back in the air and offer some sort of financial support.

"To date, the government hasn't made that commitment," he told the Seven Network's Sunrise program.

"They are being asked to provide a guarantee and to waive some fees and charges by the administrators.

"That's the sort of thing the government is going to have to do to save jobs and get this thing kick-started."

Mr Combet said the union should not have to make concessions in regards to staff, but was willing to negotiate to save jobs.

About 16,000 Ansett employees were forced out of work when the airline collapsed almost two weeks ago.

"This airline hasn't collapsed because of the employees," he said.

"It's not their pay and conditions that have led to this problem, it's been mismanagement and poor government policy making.

"We are prepared to sit down with people to make sure it is a viable airline that can get in the air, the staffing numbers are right, the productivity and efficiency issues are addressed.

"But we're very determined to protect people's pay and employment conditions in the process."

He said pay cuts were not something the union movement would consider favourably.

"I don't think its fair to ask the employees to do that," he said.

"We're prepared to sit down and negotiate ... but just a simple solution of saying that we've got to cop a pay cut is really not very attractive."

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RE: "Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"

Wed Sep 26, 2001 12:49 pm

Until Mr. Combet realises that AN was grossly overstaffed and accepts there'll have to be job
cuts in the thousands.. I don't think AN will fly again =(
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Is Ansett Flying? Absolutely!

Wed Sep 26, 2001 6:41 pm

Well,

AN's will have 11 A320s, potentially all up by the weekend according to the ABC - just confirmed.

Cheers,

Justin
 
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RE: "Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"

Wed Sep 26, 2001 6:46 pm

At an industry average of 100 staff per aircraft, that's equivalent to 1,100 jobs. How can they be operational though when no one wants them (the aircraft)? AN can't fly on its own account - it's bankrupt. So who's going to operate them?
 
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RE:

Wed Sep 26, 2001 6:55 pm

Ceilidh. Stop asking questions and READ the bloody news!!

Geez you must have a high distinction in the subject "how to criticise without your brain"!

 
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RE: "Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"

Wed Sep 26, 2001 7:04 pm

ABC Net Online :

Ansett set to return as Govt strikes deal

An agreement has been reached between Ansett and the Federal Government on the future of the collapsed airline.

Five planes will fly from Saturday.

The Government will guarantee to return ticket prices if the service is not provided.

The guarantee lasts 12 weeks.

No other government money will be provided.

 
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RE: Support Ansett Websites

Wed Sep 26, 2001 7:17 pm

Here are some sites to support Ansett.

"Gone Under" http://www.keitharmitage.com/samples/Misc%20-%20Gone%20Under-Keith%20Armitage.mp3 This song goes to the tune of Men At Work's Man from Downunder.

"TripSwap" AN FA website http://www.tripswap.net/
"Ansett Stars" http://fly.to/ansettstars
"Ansett Central" http://www.geocities.com/ansettcentral/others.html
"Save Ansett" http://www.saveansett.com/messageboard.html
"Keep Ansett Flying" http://www.ansettworkers.main-page.com/
"Ansett Pilots Association" http://www.apa.asn.au

Don't know about this one, but
"Punch Gary Toomey" http://www.dc8p.com/html/boss.html (ID is 60524)
- I don't actually hate Toomey, he's been very unlucky. Where's Cushing been?

Cheers,
 
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RE: "Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"

Wed Sep 26, 2001 7:18 pm

Does this mean that I can book Ansett flights on the Galileo CRS? Or maybe book online (the ansett.com.au site is limited to only press releases)? Or just ring them up and book a ticket with them?

Or is it just for those who already have an Ansett ticket??

Thanks

Jimmy
 
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RE: "Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"

Wed Sep 26, 2001 7:21 pm

With QF to day announcing 3x737s, 6x767s and
3x747 from international to domestic by the weekend,
one would have to ask how long Ansett 2 will survive.

Wirraway
 
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RE: "Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"

Wed Sep 26, 2001 8:00 pm

Ansett 2 will be operated as no-frills, no catering and
will have 4 fare structures according to Sky News.

4 aircraft by Sat, 5 by early next week and 11 up
by 2 weeks.

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RE: "Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"

Wed Sep 26, 2001 8:00 pm

Jimmy,

Details are still sketchy. Why not ring 13 13 00?

In other news, New Zealand's Hubbard Foods is calling on New Zealanders to save Air New Zealand with ads in the Thursday newspapers.

http://images.tvnz.co.nz/news/generic290/airnz_hubbard_ad_290.jpg

http://onenews.nzoom.com/news_detail/0,1227,59671-1-7,00.html

Cheers,

Justin
 
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RE: "Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"

Wed Sep 26, 2001 8:11 pm

No catering at all??? When will they resume the Food Service?
 
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RE: "Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"

Wed Sep 26, 2001 8:23 pm

As Transport minister said, this is NOT the rebirth of Ansett (yet)... all the government is doing is to keep Ansett flying until the administrators find a buyer for Ansett...

So I think for 12 weeks we'll have to fly Ansett without the catering... Hope they can be up and running by the end of November...

I'll ring 131300 now and ask them about fares and all... brb

Jimmy
 
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RE: "Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"

Wed Sep 26, 2001 8:53 pm

A B S O L U T E L Y B L O O D Y M A R V E L O U S !!!!


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RE: "Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"

Wed Sep 26, 2001 8:56 pm

Okay, after a 45min wait on the phone, an Ansett reservation staff comfirmed the following:

** Ansett will be flying SYD-MEL on the hour, every hour from Friday using its A320s.

** All ticketing must go through Ansett, therefore no travel agency will be able to issue the tickets.

** All the details for the flights (ie frequency, fare structure, ticketing etc) will be released on Thursday 9AM AEST.

** At the moment it is unclear whether Global Reward points will be accrued on these flights.

hope this cheers all of you up!

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RE: "Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"

Wed Sep 26, 2001 9:00 pm

Okay, after a 45min wait on the phone, an Ansett reservation staff comfirmed the following:

** Ansett will be flying SYD-MEL on the hour, every hour from Friday using its A320s.

** All ticketing must go through Ansett, therefore no travel agency will be able to issue the tickets.

** All the details for the flights (ie frequency, fare structure, ticketing etc) will be released on Thursday 9AM AEST.

** At the moment it is unclear whether Global Reward points will be accrued on these flights.

hope this cheers all of you up!


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RE:

Wed Sep 26, 2001 9:01 pm

Ceilidh, (what the hell - toilet lid)

Mate I would bother you with the details, but hey - you are the worldwide expert on airlines. Flap flap.

Comment on what you KNOW.

Air Afrique anyone. (Or I must flee Africa airways)

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RE:

Wed Sep 26, 2001 9:05 pm

Jimmy, Thanks for making the call and waiting the 45minutes, pity I don't live in Sydney or Melbourne so I could take a flight.
Why fly non stop when you can connect
 
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RE: RE:

Wed Sep 26, 2001 9:09 pm

I know eh!

But I'd say that they would have SYD-BNE up and running again, for us -- the Ansett supporters!!

COOLNESS!!~~

Jimmy

 
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RE: "Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"

Wed Sep 26, 2001 9:11 pm

*****YAY******

so excited!!

*****YAY******

Absolutely Ansett!!!!!!!!!!!!


wow

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A Brief Update

Wed Sep 26, 2001 9:35 pm

From SkyNews Australia 2 mins ago:

Ansett will start flying 24 services daily between Sydney and Melbourne, with flights for Sydney and Brisbane to follow on Sunday and between Melbourne and Perth next week.

Jimmy
 
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RE: "Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"

Wed Sep 26, 2001 10:10 pm

This is great news! Any opinions as to whether AN will stay in the Star Alliance if this return to the skies proves to be permanent?
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Star Alliance RTW

Thu Sep 27, 2001 9:14 am

I wonder whether Ansett will be still in the Star Alliance Round the World fares?

Does anyone know?

Jimmy

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