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737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 11:50 am

Just a thought--if most major airlines are deferring deliveries for the time being, will the 737-900 remain a real rarity for the next few months? How many are flying now and how many will be delivered over the next 12 months? Thanks to any who can provide information.
 
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 12:24 pm

time will tell!  Laugh out loud

 
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 12:29 pm

Only Alaska, Continental & KLM have received their initial 739 orders yet. Korean has also ordered the aircraft.

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
 
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 12:35 pm

CO has seven of the type at the moment. Three more should be in service by year end ...... At least that was the plan before 9/11/01......
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 12:36 pm

I think so at least for a year or so.
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 1:06 pm

What about the 767-400 ? If I am not mistaken (and correct me if I am) only CO and DL have taken delivery and are currently utilizing this bird.

Unless I have missed the news of other carriers that have recently taken delivery and have said 764s in service, would this not be the rarest bird flying at this time ?

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yyz717
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 2:20 pm

You are correct...only DL and CO operate the 764. The only other carrier to order the 764 thus far is Kenya Airways.

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
 
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 8:18 pm

These bad times might be a good oportunity for birds like the 737-900 (since it is cheaper then the 757-200), or the 767-400 (since it is cheaper then the 777-200). They might be a little smaller, but might make more money for the airlines.
 
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 9:43 pm

Does Continental really have seven 739s already? Where are the photos of them in the database?!  Smile
 
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 9:47 pm

KLM has 2, maybe 3 by now. 4 were on order for delivery july, aug, sept and oct 2001.

Spotting any type of which there are so few is difficult. Ever waited for a paricular reg to turn up? You're always at the wrong runway or it is in maintenance that day...
If the airline has multiple hubs and moves aircraft around, things get more tricky still.

I was lucky to see the second KLM 739 while it was fitting out when the doors of the hangar were left open one day and I could peek in  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 11:10 pm

I agree with Gregg....even in these adverse times, some airlines will be looking for new aircraft....the 739, 764 and the 717 offer specific payload/cost advantages that may be more favourable now than before Sep 11, depending on traffic requirements.

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
 
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 11:16 pm

But isn't there a limitation on the 737-900 that due to insufficient number of exits, it cannot carry more passengers than a 737-800? So it only makes sense if you have a lot of large business class seats.

That probably explains why the 737-900 is so unpopular - and why Southwest would never order one.
 
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 11:19 pm

KLM has them in single-class layout, economy only.
They are used on routes where a 737-800 does not have the capacity but a 767 is too large.
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 11:22 pm

Transwede is correct...the 739 is ltd to a max 189 pax...which limits its attractiveness to charter carriers. However, sked carriers with a business/first class section will still largely seat below the 189 limit.

If Boeing could reconfig/recert a 739 with more exits, it would become an attractive aircraft for Euro charter carriers.
I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
 
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 11:24 pm

739 : 189 pax
738 : 158 pax (in KLM layout)
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 11:26 pm

Another problem for the 737-900 is that it competes against the established A321 - IMO a superior airplane. I also think charter airlines would prefer the 757-200 to the 737-900, due to the extra range.

So the 737-900 was probably ot a very good investment for Boeing.
 
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Wed Oct 03, 2001 4:35 am

I just stepped off one about 3 hours ago. DEN-IAH Climbed up and out of DEN in a flash! I'm used to the MD-80 climbouts from Denver. We stepped up from FL330 to FL370 while en-route, close to the CO/OK border, and the flight information display on the overhead screens said we were climbing at about 1100-1300 feet per minute on the step-up. It was a really smooth and awesome ride. Especially from seat 5F in First Class.
 
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RE: 737-900: Rarest Of Birds?

Wed Oct 03, 2001 4:50 am

JWenting, you're not correct. KLM's 739's have both business (rows 1-10 = 47 seats) and economy class (rows 11-33 = 142 seats) .

BTW KLM has 3 B737-900's (PH-BXO/P/R).

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