firstclasser
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Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 9:00 am

What is the best approach in terms of "funness" in the US and world? Pilots, your pick? Passengers? I personally liked LGA, coming in over the west side, then making large turns!
 
airbus380
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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 9:01 am

MSY on the swamp approach and old Kai Tak.
 
PatM04
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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 10:44 am

San Diego. Coming over the Mountains and then almost dropping straight to the runway! Smile
 
trickijedi
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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 10:53 am

LAS especially in a 12 knot crosswind!

I like LGA's also - coming from the west, turning south and onto Runway 13!

SFO's approaches are cool too!
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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 11:59 am

EWR runway 29. flying parallel of the NYC skyline and then making a sharp turn to the left.
 
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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 12:44 pm

MDW: scraping rooftops and nearly missing the blast fence on the other side


SFO: landing in what appears to be water  Wow!


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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 12:51 pm

Milford Sound in New Zealand's South Island.

Ok, so you wont get in there in anything bigger than a Twin Otter, but this has to be on of the greatest approaches. You fly in through Milford Sound, arguably the most beautiful fijord in New Zealand. You have great scenery on either side of you,a nd water under you, and it coninues right until you reach the airstrip. I am sure there are others like it, but this is the one I have experienced, from the flight deck of an Islander (as a passenger, tho). If you are ever in Queenstown, NZ, take the Milford Sound scenic flight. You wont regret it!

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kaitakfan
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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 2:47 pm

Queenstown was one of the best approaches I got to view from the flight deck from a Air New Zealand Boeing 737. the Milford sound approach was rather breath taking! by far the best scenary I have ever encountered! However it didnt send shivers up my spine like Kai Tak airport in Hong Kong would do! Kai Tak was by far the most exciting to have a front row view of! With that approach its hard to say what was better... being in the plane while executing the IGS approach, or on the ground watching the approach occur!

Cheers!
Brian
 
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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 8:47 pm

Best approach? Tivat airport in Montenegro, Yugoslavia. It's a localizer offset approach but only in visual conditions (minimum is at 2400 ft!!!!). Approach starts over the adriatic sea coastline (beautiful sight), but as you descend towards the final app fix you enter in VERY tight area between two huge hills in Boka kotorska bay, so... Imagine DC-10 coming between two hills (you can't make any go-around between the hills, maybe with the paraglider Smile ), the localizer course is leading you straight to the hill on the other side of airport, but on one mile short final (when you jump over the top of small hill just before the runway) you have turn left, align with the runway and land!!! Pilots have only few seconds to align aircraft on centerline. If you overshoot in turn you may crash onto the airport, surrounding hills or in to the sea on the other side of the runway. When you enter between hills - there is no escape - land or crash! Smile Interesting?
 
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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 8:54 pm

1. Kai Tak!!!
2. St. Marteens
3. SFO
4. SLC
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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 8:58 pm

Leh, in Ladakh, India!!!!!

Usually flown in a 737 or A320. Downwind leg is inbetween two peaks, base leg approaches into a mountain face, Final approach and landing happen at very high speed due to the airport being high up on the Tibetan plateau!! Runway slopes up at an angle to help stop the a/c.

I've flown the Delhi-Leh flight twice. You hop across the Himalayas with spectacular views of peaks like Nanga Parbat, and K2 off in the distance. It's the best!!!

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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 9:14 pm

I agree that approaching SFO is absolutely fantastic. I have taken some wonderful photos there. Departures can be very nice as well.
Unfortunately I never landed in Kai Tak.
St. Maarten must be great, too.

Regards, Daniel
 
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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 9:29 pm

Are there any CO or AA pilots who fly to Latin America in the forum? (I know there is one photographer who posts photos every now and then.)

The approach from both directions into Tegucigalpa, Honduras (TGU) is also a very exciting one due to extremely mountainous terrain. The airport is pretty much in a valley. Last minute turns on short finals create an eerie silence in the cabin. It's amazing a loaded AA 757 can land there or a faster A320. Planes approaches are so low that there have been a few accidents...with people standing underneath them...
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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 9:46 pm

LGA, Runway 4, making the big U-turn from the north. Hands down the best.

A little sadder now, though.
 
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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 10:01 pm

Not a common destination, granted, but the approach to Bergen, Norway, is breathtaking, as was the climb-out of Oslo Fornebu. Not to forget the approach and climb-out from Sumburgh Airport, in Shetland. Not for the faint-hearted...
 
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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 10:40 pm

AEP Downtown BUE airport
SDU Downtown RIO airport
LGA
CGH Downtown SAO airpot
SFO
SXM
 
airbus380
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RE: Best Approach!

Thu Oct 04, 2001 10:57 pm

I forgot about DCA coming over the water, that is great.
 
kaitakfan
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RE: Best Approach!

Fri Oct 05, 2001 3:16 am

now just curious how many of you actually went to kai tak? are you speaking of personal experience or just from photos and so on that prove it was the greatest approach? if you did go, share your experience... always great to hear kai tak stories. that one approach that cozmo is speaking of sounds awesome! Is a DC-10 the largest plane that flys in to that airport?

Cheers!
Brian
 
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RE: Best Approach!

Fri Oct 05, 2001 6:59 am

also, jfk at 13L where it seems that u are landing on the belt parkway, till you make a quick right. From your posts, i assume that most city airports are more intresting. Pilots, your picks?
 
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RE: Best Approach!

Fri Oct 05, 2001 7:04 am

Airbus380 - I agree that the MSY swamp approach is really neat...kind of akin to the SFO water approach. You feel like you're gonna land in a swamp! Along the same lines as that is the approach into Hamilton Island, Queensland. I was there in '98. I flew in on an Ansett 146, and you really do feel like you're gonna hit the water. Possibly even more harrowing was flying out on an Ansett 767-200 - I think we used every last inch of runway!
 
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RE: Best Approach!

Fri Oct 05, 2001 7:09 am

I quite liked the approach into SVO. As far as the eye could see, there was lush forest. We (an Aeroflot A310) turned sharply and reasonably low over a huge pond - it was very memorable.
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sushka
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RE: Best Approach!

Fri Oct 05, 2001 7:36 am

Pe@rson sure is great! Also the Flight school right next to SVO with all the old aeroflot Aircraft on RWY7!!! And at nighttime you can look out and clearly see Red Square, Wow I sure miss it!
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RE: Best Approach!

Fri Oct 05, 2001 8:39 am

I must say that the old Kai Tak approach was spectacular! The way it makes those turns and flies really low over the city. St. Maarten approach is extraordinary too. I love the way the planes fly really low over the beach. Big grin

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RE: Best Approach!

Fri Oct 05, 2001 9:06 am

I love the mexico city (MEX) approach to runways 05R or 05L.
It´s amazing to fly over one of the most big cities in the world.
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cv640
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RE: Best Approach!

Fri Oct 05, 2001 12:02 pm

I love the view of downtown D.C. on the River Visual to National. Don't know if that will ever be allowed again with all the new security, but always a great view of the Capital and monuments.
 
Bobsmuggle
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RE: Best Approach!

Fri Oct 05, 2001 2:23 pm

From photos that i have seen i would have to say that the most visually spectacular approach would be Princess Julianna at St Marteen.

But the one that tops the cake is the Courchevel Altiport in the french alps. Sitting at about 6500 feet AMSL, it has a nice gentle 12-18% gradient, and the runway runs off the edge of a mountain. You need special training to use the airport, only light and Dash 7/8 aircraft operate there. There are some great pics of it on http://members.aon.at/~slenz/dash7.html about half way down.

The most spectacular approach i have landed as a pilot (since i only have ever landed at 4 airfields in my training so far) would have to be a little private bush strip south of Brisbane called Kagaru, simply because the runway drops away about half way down the runway when taking off (gotta love a negative value on the VSI when you rotate). It is even more fun while landing, when you flare it looks like you are running straight into the side of a hill.

 
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RE: Best Approach!

Fri Oct 05, 2001 2:26 pm

CV640, it actually looks like the new southbound approach to DCA will be just as interesting if not moreso than the river visual:

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RE: Best Approach!

Fri Oct 05, 2001 3:41 pm

My picks...

(As a pilot) Las Vegas, Rwy. 19L visual approach

(As a passenger) Calgary, coming in from the West over the Rockies

Jeff

 
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RE: Best Approach!

Fri Oct 05, 2001 4:44 pm

One of the most difficult and spectacular approaches was and still is ( despite the fact the runway was extended now ) into FNC - Funchal-Madeira Island. You come in large curve onto a 1 mile final and in the old days the runway was only about 5500 ft - I once came into FNC as cockpit vistor in a B727-100 in 1982. The pilots needed extra training to be qualifgied to fly into FNC.
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RE: Best Approach!

Fri Oct 05, 2001 5:14 pm

San Diego and...

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RE: Best Approach!

Fri Oct 05, 2001 5:40 pm

SFO, approach from the north turning over the city and via the bay towards runway 28 R.

AMS, approach over the city towards runway 27. (did so last monday)

DPS, water everywhere! until you touch the pier on which the only runway is built.
 
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RE: Best Approach!

Fri Oct 05, 2001 6:56 pm

The approach to LHR from the east is pretty good,flying over central London at around 3000 ft.The only really good approach I can recall at the moment is the eastern approach to Barcelona,I did this last year and we got a great view of the Costa Brava and the city of Barcelona.

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RE: Best Approach!

Sun Oct 07, 2001 2:42 pm

also add Aspen/Pitken Co./Sardy Field.
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RE: Best Approach!

Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:48 pm

Edinburgh.
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RE: Best Approach!

Sun Oct 07, 2001 5:59 pm

We were approaching Sofia - Vrazhdebna airport in Bulgaria. As Sofia is covered in smog most of the time, we had to circle above Bulgaria for an hour and when we started the approach we could not see anything due to the fog and smog (now is that spectacular?). Well we couldn't see but then all of a sudden we came from under the smog and we immediateley touched down on the runway. All the passengers were just looking surprised: "oh, are were there already?"
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