BA Replaces 777 By 767-300 On Some Routes?

Thu Oct 04, 2001 4:48 pm

I saw in British Airways timetables that since November 1st 777-200 will be replaced on some middle-range routes (for example, LHR-TLV) by 767-300. As a 777 fan that flying a lot on this route, I was pretty disappointed. Who knows what is the reason for this change, and whether it's a temporary or a permanent one ?
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RE: BA Replaces 777 By 767-300 On Some Routes?

Thu Oct 04, 2001 4:55 pm

Maybe the B772 would be put on other routes...quite impossible to retire them or just dump them.

Actually airlines always change the type of aircraft to suit the demand or efficiency.It's very normal.but as you are a fan...yeh too dissapointing.
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RE: BA Replaces 777 By 767-300 On Some Routes?

Thu Oct 04, 2001 6:21 pm

Maybe routes for middle-east cannot get that load factor before the terroristic actions. That's so usual, like AC operates 767-300 for YVR-ICN instead of 340 of before.

RE: BA Replaces 777 By 767-300 On Some Routes?

Thu Oct 04, 2001 6:42 pm

Probably to do with the retirement of all 747-236's.
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RE: BA Replaces 777 By 767-300 On Some Routes?

Thu Oct 04, 2001 10:21 pm

I presume that BA are moving 767-300 onto the Tel Aviv route as passengers, in particular business passengers, are dropping due to the risk of terrorism and the financial burdens that have been placed on companies in the past months. TLV was previously served with 767-300 in a two class config until BA decided to use the 777 from LHR, offering a three-class layout. However, I would guess they just cannot fill the aircraft.
Alternatively, it could be due to the fact that BA are retiring their 747-236Bs and switching 777 onto the routes previously served by these aircraft. Also, they are not deploying 763 on European (Düsseldorf, FRA, Stockholm, Nice, Munich, Milan, Rome, Zürich) routes as much as they used to, so they are maybe using the 763 to fill the routes that they have taken the 777 away from. It would certainly make more sense, in the long run, to fly a fully-loaded 763 rather than a 777 that is only 2/3 full.
Anyway, they are retiring a number of 763 also which is a sign that they are really having problems filling their larger aircraft.
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RE: BA Replaces 777 By 767-300 On Some Routes?

Fri Oct 05, 2001 1:14 am

Probably a temporary move, due to the current situation, as 767-336ERs are on the way out in the medium term.
BA are talking to the Royal Air Force about the RAF getting 6 767s.
Some, with more to follow, are leased to Qantas.
The RAF may want the 767s as an interim move, as BA 767s are in the running to be sold for conversion to transport/tanker aircraft to replace the VC-10s. 10 were planned for conversion, but that could well increase, the Australian Air Force have a similar requirement for about 6 aircraft to replace B707s.
When BA sold it's L1011-500's to the RAF in the early 1980's, some were operated by the RAF in a basic passenger configuration before conversion to transport/tankers.

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