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Today Its Over For TWA At JFK

Sat Oct 06, 2001 2:29 pm

Well, well, its October 6th [on the east coast, still the 5th here, but whatever].

At 7.59pm TWA LLC flight 481 will leave the graceful Saarinen terminal for St. Louis closing out decades of TWA service to JFK/Idelwild.

While LLC isn't really TWA it still sort of is and this is quite a sad and historic occasion. I can't imagine JFK without TWA, I have always flown them to JFK [along with AA every once in a while]. TWA along with Pan Am was for years JFK's and New York's airline, with numerous transatlantic flights back in the glory of the jet age. Even before as in 1996 TWA celebrated 50 years of trans-atlantic flights. It is just another depressing event in TWA's downfall.

I wish all TWA JFK employees, including many who have served me well over the years the absolute best of luck. I remember getting of my usual fligt, 840 from Los Angeles, in December 1996. He greeted everyone as they exited and thanked them for flying his airline. He asked if New York was our final destination [which it normally is but we were continuing on 840 to Rome like it once did] and he thanked us profusely. I also wish the swooping, elegant and perfectly space age Saarinen terminal the best of luck and hope for its revitalization and return to glory albiet without TWA. It is without a doubt a magnificent structure and captivating to anyone who has ever stepped foot in it. I wish I could be there tomorrow, but my thoughts will be with TWA all day.

take care TWA, you'll be sorely missed by many, I don't know who I'll fly to NYC in December, I'll be at a complete loss.

humbly,
Jeffrey W
Hollywood, CA



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RE: Today Its Over For TWA At JFK

Sat Oct 06, 2001 2:42 pm

 Crying

May we never forget TWA at JFK.. I was not fortunate enough to see them there, but will miss it none the less..

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RE: Today Its Over For TWA At JFK

Sat Oct 06, 2001 2:52 pm

great report Jeff!

 
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RE: Today Its Over For TWA At JFK

Sat Oct 06, 2001 3:01 pm

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RE: Today Its Over For TWA At JFK

Sat Oct 06, 2001 3:17 pm

Will the famous TWA terminal be preserved?
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RE: Today Its Over For TWA At JFK

Sat Oct 06, 2001 3:31 pm

Virginflyer; Yes teh termianl will be preserved along with the flightwings but it'll be merged with T7 and the terminal will be turned into an aviation museum. Sadly it'll no longer serve planes. As I heard the gates will be torn down.
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RE: Today Its Over For TWA At JFK

Sat Oct 06, 2001 4:03 pm


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Those TWA tails rising over the terminal will be missed.  Sad

At least I'm glad that I had the opportunity to disembark out into the Sarineen terminal when I flew a TWA 747-100 back in 1996. It's sad to see TWA's assets go. I will be even more sad when the old Pan Am WorldPort gets demolished in order to make way for Delta's new terminal.

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RE: Today Its Over For TWA At JFK

Sat Oct 06, 2001 4:37 pm

Pull down the gates? Perhaps if someone ever preserves full commercial aircraft, they could be permanently parked at these gates, where people could visit them. Would such a thing be permissible in terms of apron space?
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RE: Today Its Over For TWA At JFK

Sun Oct 07, 2001 3:07 am

Thanks for your responses.

The lobby section of the terminal and likely the two tunnel like walk ways that connect the lobby to the flight wing will remain. The flight wings will likely not, well atleast in the PA's plan.

Thanks again

 
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RE: Today Its Over For TWA At JFK

Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:35 am

Sadly I never had the chance to go inside that terminal, but I did have the opportunity to see it in person, and with several 747s of TWA in the picture also. I didn't think of it then(this was pre- fl.800), but I realize how fortunate I was to see that site. I was a little tired as I had just gotten off an 11 hr. flight on a 747 from the middle east, but as I look at it now, that image will forever be in my mind.
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RE: Today Its Over For TWA At JFK

Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:50 am

Today is a sad day indeed. First the passing of National, Eastern, Braniff, Pan Am, and now the passing of TWA. What a sad loss for the airline industry as a whole. Their JFK terminal has always been a graceful sight to behold. A captain that I used to fly with quite often(we were National and parked next door) came up with a few sexual inuendoes(sp.?) because he thought the building was so graceful.

When Pan Am went out of business, I was of course sad because I had just lost my job, but this is different-TWA has been part of the NY skyline for so many years and now we will see them no more.

To all TWA employees, I send my deepest sympathies to each and every one of you, with my hope that eventually you too will only remember the very good days, trips around the world and the wonderful people that you got to meet. To one special crew, SFO-JFK in October 1978, thanks to you for the perfect end to a wonderful if not short honeymoon.
 
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RE: Today Its Over For TWA At JFK

Sun Oct 07, 2001 5:24 am

i had been there many times with TWA as I was younger... Laugh out loud
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RE: Today Its Over For TWA At JFK

Sun Oct 07, 2001 9:41 am

Well, its happened.

TWA flight 481 on a MD-83 scheduled to depart at 7.59pm pushed back at 7.46pm from T5's gate 26. It then lifted off the ground at 8.14pm and is scheduled to land at St. Louis Lambert at 9.49pm arriving gate C27 on time at 9.59pm.

TWA's last departures from JFK were flight 787, a MD-83 to Orlando, 5925 to St. Louis and flight 481.

The last arrival was flight 786, a MD-83 from Cancun, Mexico.

Thank you TWA for all your years of JFK flights.
 
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RE: Today Its Over For TWA At JFK

Sun Oct 07, 2001 10:06 am

I remember flying out of that terminal in 1993 and 1995, both times on TWA's then 747-100 flight non-stop to Athens-Hellinikon. What a magnificant site the first time, seeing all those 747's at the tarmac and the beautiful terminal. Remember the second time during pushback seeing an SQ 744 at T4 (back when they went into t-4) and was jealous our plane didnt have winglets Smile

Good luck to all the former TWA employees and long live the legend.
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RE: Today Its Over For TWA At JFK

Sun Oct 07, 2001 10:14 am

What a sad day for enthusiasts. I recall travelling through the terminal last summer. The natural lighting inside the terminal was much more 'warmer' than T1 I had earlier. The curvers inside the terminal like no other- it definitely beats any clean lines of T1 or any other modern terminals that feel 'sterile'.

However, it's understandable why the terminal operations have been scaling back over the years. It's outdated- which is even more obvious once you're in the concourse and gate area. It's dim with almost no concessions and amenities for waiting passengers.