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SIA Group News

Wed Oct 10, 2001 7:51 am

Well, here they are, SIA's latest news.

Due SIA's recently flight reduction is familiar with peoples on this board, so I'm not posting them. I'm posting SIA Cargo and Silkair's latest.

SIA CARGO Has announced some changes to its freighter operation.

Starting 30Oct01 SIA Cargo will operate twice-weekly service from Singapore to Dallas-Fort Worth via Hong Kong and from Singapore to Munich, Germany, via India.

Weekly freighter service to Melbourne and Perth, Australia, will be suspended from 09Oct.

Cargo flights to Sydney have been reduced to 2 per week since Sep01.
Weekly freighter service to Penang, Malaysia, will also be suspended on 05Oct.

The frequency of flights to New York and Chicago will remain unchanged, but the company will no longer send cargo between Chicago and New York. Los Angeles service will continue on a daily basis.

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Silkair, the regional "wing" of Singapore Airlines, will be adding 2 new destinations from this winter.

Silkair will provides A320 service to Palembang, Indonesia and Cochin, India.
 
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RE: SIA Group News

Wed Oct 10, 2001 1:34 pm

No comments?
 
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RE: SIA Group News

Wed Oct 10, 2001 1:41 pm

The Cargo ones are quite old news...i've got the news nearly a week ago.

However, thanx for the Silkair information, seems like Silkair is still on its track, not being effected too much by 911, flying as a very-obviously regional airline.I really wonder why SIA doesn't cut the Kuala Lumpur route or some other Asian based routes to Silkair, since MI flew to Jarkata before with SQ, but was out because of the crash.SIA should try to move some routes to MI, and make SQ as a very obviously international acrrier (Though it is now), while Silkair could build a regional image in South-East Asia, and not just to act as an airline that only flies to exotic places in Asia, but would act as leader in regional subs in Asia.

Best Regards
 
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RE: SIA Group News

Wed Oct 10, 2001 1:57 pm

Are you saying that their freighter will fly SIN-HKG-DFW? I suppose there must be a stop somewhere between HKG and DFW, since I don't think a loaded 744F can possibly make that distance non-stop.

'949
 
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RE: SIA Group News

Wed Oct 10, 2001 2:21 pm

9v-spk : SilkAir was established mainly to operate to secondary Asian cities which have a greater proportion of leisure traffic.

SIA enjoys the patronage of a substantial number of business travel out of Kuala Lumpur who eventually connect on SIA's flights to Australiasia, on her Trans-Pacific routes to the west coast of USA, to Europe and also to USA East Coast.

For this reason, KUL remains a Singapore Airlines' destination. Jakarta was an abnormal situation, but this was finally and currently operated as an SIA destination. Hope this clarifies a little.

KC Sim
BKK
 
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RE: SIA Group News

Wed Oct 10, 2001 2:54 pm

Yep i totally agree with you.
But i guess if Silkair didn't crash...that would be another story.
Maybe they should stay on the same track...exotic destinations.

Best Regards
 
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RE: SIA Group News

Wed Oct 10, 2001 4:35 pm

does anyone know if silkair is actually making a profit?
 
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RE: SIA Group News

Wed Oct 10, 2001 10:16 pm

KELVIN, aka Carmy,

Silk Air is not making a profit.
 
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Fleet Movements?

Thu Oct 11, 2001 1:07 am

Hello,

What is it about with the fleet movements at SIA please? How far from completing the A310 and A340 retirements are they?


Thank you,

Best regards,
Alain Mengus
 
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RE: SIA Group News

Thu Oct 11, 2001 2:41 am

Not much really. No idea about A340 Retirements. I suppose, still on track.
Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
 
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9v-spk...

Thu Oct 11, 2001 7:43 am

I don't quite get you. Are you somesort of an anti-Malaysian or anti-KUL kind of person because you seems to be giving a lot of negative response to both Malaysia or KUL. SIA is doing very good in Malaysia or to be moe precise, KUL. Before the Sept. 11 incident, SIA was operating 10 daily flights into KUL, and even after the cut, it was operating at 9 daily flights into KUL. The SIN-KUL route is one of the busiest international route in Asia, thereby, making it one of the most profitable route for both SIA and MAS. SIA generates a lot of traffic from KUL, not only it's one of the cheapest airline to travel in the Economy class from Malaysia to most destinations served by SIA, but, some of the business passengers actually prefer SIA to some other airlines, therefore creating quite heavy traffic on that route. After all, the yield for this route is pretty high I think! 60 USD for a one-way confirmed ticket which has a flying time less than an hour. This is why both SIA and MAS operates on such a high frequency on that route! I seriously don't think that the SIN-KUL market will be suspended.

Regards.
 
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RE: SIA Group News

Thu Oct 11, 2001 8:44 am

SIA Cargo's HKG-DFW will stop at ANC for sure.
 
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RE: SIA Group News

Thu Oct 11, 2001 10:35 am

Odie:

SIA is making a loss on SIN-KUL. I think 2 years ago it was SGD 9 million. Remember, they charge in Malaysian Ringgit from KUL, and even though the Singapore dollar has a dollar value more than double that of the Malaysian Ringgit, in absolute terms, they don't charge a fare double that of SGD in Malaysia.

However, it is an important route since they get a lot of feed from KUL into their international routes. I think the appropriate term to describe this is "corss-subsidisation". Like, SIN-Bali is also not profitable, but lots or Europeans like to get to Bali via SIN, thus operating the SIN-Bali route makes their Europe-SIN routes profitable.

Singapore is hardly a final destination for most people flying SQ, I think.
 
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Pay Attention OdiE

Thu Oct 11, 2001 10:55 am

OdiE,

"The Cargo ones are quite old news...i've got the news nearly a week ago.

However, thanx for the Silkair information, seems like Silkair is still on its track, not being effected too much by 911, flying as a very-obviously regional airline.I really wonder why SIA doesn't cut the Kuala Lumpur route or some other Asian based routes to Silkair, since MI flew to Jarkata before with SQ, but was out because of the crash.SIA should try to move some routes to MI, and make SQ as a very obviously international acrrier (Though it is now), while Silkair could build a regional image in South-East Asia, and not just to act as an airline that only flies to exotic places in Asia, but would act as leader in regional subs in Asia.

Best Regards"

Now tell me, which line tells you that I'm anti-Malay or Anti-Kul or anti whatever.I can't even find a WORD that's putting negative response to both Malaysia or KUL.

You should have read my DETAILS and EVERY SINGLE WORD on my article, not just because of a single WORD.I was thinking why not SILKAIR take over the Kuala Lumpur route, NOT CUTTING or SUSPENDING the route.Gosh i don't even know why you can make such a mistake.

Of course I know SIN-KUL is one of the busiest route.I travelled to Kuala Lumour 2 years ago, and the flight was around 80% full.Even it's one of the busiest, it's not really a profit-making route, due to competing with MH, they have around 0 flights per day.Just like HKG-TPE, tickets are also cheap, but i've never heard of anybody saying that HKG-TPE is a golden route when SIN-KUL is another golden route too.

MH usually operates B734 on this route, sometimes A330, while SQ operates A310 and B772, and a B744 on one single flight if i remember correctly.But MH has more flights a day, and if have to compete with MH, SQ should operate the same number of flights to give customers a wider choice.THAT'S WHY i was suggesting MI to take over this route, because it's very short, only around 45-55 mins, and also, Kuala Lumpur is an international city that lots of tourists would like to pick it as a vacation spot.Of course, it was only my suggestion.All i said was suggesting SQ to move some routes to MI.

Please read carefully and ask if you've got any problems about the article and every word if you aren't sure.This is A.net, and i'd never want to see another "JOKE" like this, cutting SIN-KUL.Also tell you what, OdiE, it's not just an international route for SIN-KUL, it's also a shuttle route.Keep that in mind.


Best Regards

 
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RE: SIA Group News

Thu Oct 11, 2001 10:59 am

Corrections
20 flights a day, not 0
 
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RE: SIA Group News

Thu Oct 11, 2001 8:24 pm

Actually, not many people will travel to Singapore alone by flight. Singaporeans or Malaysian would actually prefer to fly from Johore Bahru to Kuala Lumpur rather than by Singapore. First of all, the tax is much higher and secondly, the airfare to/from Johore Bahru is cheaper from/to KUL.

What SIA does is to sell loads of cheap air tickets into their international network from Malaysia. In fact, SIA have cheaper seats than MAS to most of the destinations. Not to mention the MAS/SIA shuttle also provide a link to SIN, connecting to other airlines that don't operate at KUL, but SIN. (which a lot of them do!) eg. Qantas, BA, Lufthansa, United yadda yadda yadda...

SIA only offers cheap seats from Malaysia, but not to Malaysia! If I would like to go to Malaysia from the states or Europe or Australia, SIA is definetely not one of the cheapest air tickets around, but if I travel from Malaysia to Europe, Australia or America, SIA is one of the cheapest ticket. I have no idea on this, but isn't the Malaysian Ringgit weaker than most of the other currencies around the world? Sorry about the misintepretation of the cutting KUL route to MI. But there are quite a high number of passengers traveling from KUL or to KUL on SIA, so cutting that route to MI won't work! Even SIA won't allow Penang to be operated by MI, more over KUL. There's a lot of American firms at Penang which often uses SIA to fly to America in Business Class.

By the way, MAS only operate a total of 83 weekly flights into SIN from KUL, if I am not mistaken, far from your assumption of 140 weekly flights. And SIA no longer operate the B744 into KUL. Most of their flights are operated by B772 or A310 and on some occasion, A340.

I think like most airline, they rely on 6th freedom rights for profit! Even MAS's most profitable international route, London, not many Malaysians will fly on MAS on the KUL-LHR sector alone, most of them are British or Australians flying the kangaroo route!

best regards.

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