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Canadian Airport Expansion Projects

Thu Oct 11, 2001 7:29 am

Does anybody know what will happen to the new terminal at YOW and the new transborder finger at YUL in the wake of 9/11? What about the huge new terminal at YYZ?
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RE: Canadian Airport Expansion Projects

Thu Oct 11, 2001 7:40 am

The new YYZ terminal is on track. It is needed as much to replace the outdated Terminal 1 & 2 as for expansion.


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RE: Canadian Airport Expansion Projects

Thu Oct 11, 2001 7:55 am

Yeah, I figured as much...any news on YOW/YUL though?
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RE: Canadian Airport Expansion Projects

Thu Oct 11, 2001 9:21 am

Hey Neil,

What will happen to AC when the new terminal is built. Will some of the other airlines from T3 come over or will it stay the same?

Just wondering

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RE: Canadian Airport Expansion Projects

Thu Oct 11, 2001 9:45 am

Word here in Montreal is that everything is still on track. No changes forseen.
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RE: Canadian Airport Expansion Projects

Thu Oct 11, 2001 10:33 am

When T-New is built, it'll be almost exclusive for AC and its friends. Almost everyone else will be relegated to T3.
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RE: Canadian Airport Expansion Projects

Thu Oct 11, 2001 11:07 am

Eventually, when all the piers are completed, T-3 will be demolished. But we're talking 15-30 years down the road.

Visit the Greater Toronto Airports Authority for more on the expansion:
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RE: Canadian Airport Expansion Projects

Thu Oct 11, 2001 11:40 am

I fly in and out of YYZ regularly, and I've had another question...What will happen to the regional jet terminal (for those who don't know, it's a terminal at the corner of the airport, off T-2, which serve's AC's CRJ's and Air Ontario's Dash-8s)? Will it be turned into a permanent facility accessible by bus from T-New, or is it an interim facility? And if it is temporary, where will the CRJs and Air Ontario flights arrive at T-New?

The reason I ask is that AC seems to be just completing an extension and renovation at that terminal, which has added on more waiting space and a new, glass-backed information desk. But in outside appearance, the terminal seems very temporary.

Anyone have any answers?
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RE: Canadian Airport Expansion Projects

Thu Oct 11, 2001 11:48 am

I'm not certain, but try reading the Expansion plans at the website. Several holdrooms are mentioned, I believe.

I know there seems to be some sort of holding facility at the end of the runway that faces Highy 427... might this be expanded while T-2 is systematically demolished as T-New expands?

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Yqtyyz And T3!

Sat Oct 13, 2001 9:05 am

Hey buddy, I have been looking at the plans at the GTAA web site and I think they are just going to rebuild T-3 not clear it out. Further down the road, you are right 2015 or so they are going to connect the two terminals and probably make T-3 fit the whole look of T-new

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YOW's New Terminal

Sat Oct 13, 2001 9:37 am

The new terminal at YOW, is still proceeding as planned. In fact much of the foundation has already been constructed. The project has progressed far too much to be halted and is still desperately needed. In fact if there was zero growth (as if that will happen) at YOW from now until spring 2004, when phase 1 of the new terminal is set to open, the old/present terminal would still be operating at nearly a million passengers over capacity.
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What About Yyc?

Sat Oct 13, 2001 11:48 am

Isn't some sort of expansion going on at Calgary?
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RE: Canadian Airport Expansion Projects

Sat Oct 13, 2001 12:56 pm

There is a monster expansion going on in Calgary.
Sure its not as big as YYZ but YYC is getting a facelift as well.

Under expansion section, its there.
Right now, this new obs lunge for the public which is on the beidge that connects main T to D gates is expected to be done by december..
The Finger pier for the D Terminal itself will be done sometime next year.
Expansion to Parking and facelift of the B terminal will be underway soon,
The long run a new paralell runway will be built beside barlow trail. Some new taxiways are also under construction as well as interior fixes like security since 911.
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RE: Canadian Airport Expansion Projects

Sat Oct 13, 2001 1:05 pm

Here are some pics of the Calgary expansion plans...



Info on some projects,

Expansion Highlights at Calgary International Airport
Construction cranes and earthmovers continue to be part of the airport landscape as a much-needed expansion at the north end of the air terminal building progresses at a fast pace.

Here are the highlights of the major terminal expansion projects currently underway or on the drawing board.

Courtyard In-fill
In the area formerly known as the 'Courtyard', which physically separated the main terminal from the 'north wing', there is a three-level in-fill which will result in the north terminal and the main terminal being linked on all levels. On the arrivals level, Canada Customs will have expanded baggage pick-up and secondary inspection areas to accommodate in excess of one million international arriving passengers each year.

Just above, on the Departures Level, will be additional check-in and federal inspection facilities for United States destined travelers. During peak times, the United States Customs and Immigration pre-clearance area is very busy and this additional space will greatly enhance service levels.

Incorporated into the design for these two areas, will be an 'In-transit Facility' which will permit a process, recently approved by the Canadian and U.S. governments, whereby overseas arriving passengers that are connecting directly to a U.S. destined flight may by-pass Canadian Inspection Services and go directly to U.S. Pre-clearance.

Cost of this project is $75M and is targeted for completion in late 2002.

Concourse D Ticketing, Check-in and Gate Pier
An entire new Departure Gate 'Pier' is now rising from the ground. The Concourse D Pier will have 11 aircraft loading bridges connected to departure lounges inside. There will be a moving sidewalk to shorten the walking time for inbound travelers to the Arrivals level baggage claim area or for departing passengers getting to their Gate.

There will also be a 'Plus 15' Skywalk connecting the Parkade to the Concourse D Check-in and Ticketing area.

The Concourse D Check-in area and Gate Pier will be completed in December 2002 at a cost of $158M

Concourse D Widening
Just when you thought Concourse D got as good as it could get, we have one more project just to finish things off.

Many travelers will remember the existing four departure lounges in Concourse D as narrow and cramped. When the 11 new Gates on the D Pier open, we will take the original four gates D31 to D34 out of service, widen the entire area and then put them back in service again. When re-opened, these four gates will be accessible from both Concourse D and Concourse C such that they will be 'swing' gates useable for both domestic, international and U.S. destined flights, dependant on the need at the time.

New shops, services and food and beverage facilities will be added to the Concourse D public and post-security areas.

Also on the Arrivals Level will be a beautiful new and expanded International greeter area. Our design team's creativity will impress travelers as they exit Canada Customs and have a true sense of having arrived in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.

The last dust from this project will be swept up in mid 2004. Estimated cost $59M.

Who better to call this newly expanded area home than Canada's fast growing WestJet Airlines! We're building fast to keep pace with WestJet as they expand their home base in Calgary. We thank WestJet and their guests for their patience during the construction period as we build these new facilities.

What's Next?
The original portions of the main terminal's arrival and departure levels will be receiving a 'make-over'. That '70's 'earth tone' of brown quarry tile and butcher block style check-in counters will be replaced by new finishings to match the newer portions of the terminal complex.

Our last expansion to the Parkade is already filling to capacity during peak times, so the third phase to the vehicle Parkade adjoining the terminal is already under design with construction commencing in the Fall of 2001. This project will add another 1060 vehicle stalls at a cost of $24M, which includes upgrades and refurbishment of the original Parkade area to the standards of the expanded area.

Over the next couple of years we will also be monitoring demand and review the need to extend the main terminal to the east and also expand facilities for what we call Tier 3 commuter aircraft operations.

What's Finished?
Even if you're not traveling it's worth a trip to the airport just to see the beautiful new Grand Hall that opened in 2000.

Waterfalls, bronze sculptures and space shuttles are examples of elements that have come together to create an atmosphere that ranges from tranquility to barrel rolls in an F18 simulator.

There's no other Starbucks in the world with the view like this one! Wide-open seating areas, with water elements at each end, overlook the tarmac and taxiways with the city skyline and the Canadian Rockies in the background.

Also in this new space is a line-up of unique shops and services that helped Calgary take top prize among North America airports for retail and concession excellence. A wellness spa, full service medical clinic, theme restaurants and some very unique 'street priced' retail shops help pay the bills and give travelers what they want at affordable prices.

Adjoining the Destinations Food Court on Level Three is our world famous Spaceport complex. Interactive displays and activities entertain and inform visitors about our aviation and aerospace past, present and future. Click here for more information on this exciting facility

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RE: Canadian Airport Expansion Projects

Sat Oct 13, 2001 3:11 pm

I was just going to post something about the major expansion at YYC but you beat me to it.

Its pretty intense - a completely new pier with 11 new gates is on its way up. I was quite surprised on a trip out of YYC a few months ago to see it going up, and I'm not too sure if it is really needed at the moment. But, in any case, it will be needed in the long term so its all good, yeah yeahh...

Then, theres also the much needed parkade expansion, and the international processing facility. Unfortunately, needed almost as badly are the interior reno's of the existing terminal, which sound like they are a ways off. But at least they are planned, that 70s tile has got to go.

While I'm on the topic of expansion, there's some construction work going on at little old YLW, they are adding a second aircraft loading bridge to join the existing one, which still hasn't gone into service yet because of apron work at that position. Jetways seem a little overdue for an airport that handles more traffic than YXE and YQR, but Kelowna is a relatively new city that is only now catching up to its huge population growth. And I suspect they are expecting to receive Air Canada's LCC which will operate ex CP 737s, so the walkways will be in heavy use once the apron work is completed.

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RE: Canadian Airport Expansion Projects

Sat Oct 13, 2001 10:34 pm

T-3 will definitely be torn down in the next 30 years. I remember reading it in an issue of Airways magazine last year (it was all about Canadian airport developments).

Demolishing T-3 is the ultimate goal of the airport authority. In the short term, they will build gates on the pier side that is currently blocked off by the cargo area.
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RE: Canadian Airport Expansion Projects

Sat Oct 13, 2001 10:41 pm

Clearly, and it states on page 4: there is definitely an operational end life for T-3. The picture shows partial, or complete demolition of T-3, which will be replaced by 2 other piers.

I wish I were better at computers so I can insert the pictures... maybe some can help us out?
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RE: Canadian Airport Expansion Projects

Sat Oct 13, 2001 11:39 pm

Hi Guys,

At YYZ, most airlines will move over to T1-New. AC andthe STAR Alliance will be dominant, but T1-new is to big for just that...eventually T3 will me mainly Canada 3000 (If they are still around) and other smaller carriers, but the big boys are pretty much all moving over to T1-New. The plans for the buildings and T3 in particular have changed many many times since the development was started, and last I heard T3 will eventually be absorbed (connected/expanded) into T1-New rather then being torn down all together. But that may change again, depending on the needs of the city...that is the good thing of this modular development, it can be changed right up till just before the construction is finished.
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