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To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sat Oct 13, 2001 7:40 pm

Little article from the LA Times, a couple excerpts you will want to read:

>>JetBlue was firmly in the black before Sept. 11. For the first six months of 2001, the carrier posted a profit of $10.7 million on revenue of $142.2 million, and JetBlue's load factor was a stout 80%, according to figures compiled by the Department of Transportation<<

>>"We're back to within 85% of where we were" in terms of passenger traffic, Neeleman, 41, said.<<

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-000081286oct12.story?coll=la%2dheadlines%2dbusiness

While it may be operating profit or net profit, I don't know, it was still a profit, which is much better than what most majors were posting.
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sat Oct 13, 2001 7:51 pm

This has to be the best, freshest business model in the airline industry since Virgin. I read an article about JetBlue's CEO. This guy is a solid leader and from the looks of it so is his airline. He will clean aircraft or help load bags. He doesn't have people working for him, he has people working WITH him. Thats what it's all about!Keep up the good work!
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sat Oct 13, 2001 9:09 pm

I knew that they'd come out okay. Neeleman is a damn genious in this industry where so few are lacking.

So... do you JetBlue?  Smile

If only they'd fly to IND, PVD, or BOS! Come on Neeleman!!!!!!

- Neil Harrison

 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sat Oct 13, 2001 9:28 pm

They're the greatest! I flew them from JFK-BUF-JFK last July and what a great relaxed on-board atmosphere. And they're organized to the teeth, both on the ground and aloft. I'll always make them my number one (low fares or not)!
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sat Oct 13, 2001 11:56 pm

As a Foreigner to US airlines, I too recommend this airline for domestic travel within the US; I had a pleasant flight from Seattle to JFK; comfortable seats, live TV and complimentary muffins & water.

Regards
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 1:40 am

The only think, I'll be able to tell is:

"Massive respect to you, Mr Neeleman!"

Cheers,

Benjamin
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 2:25 am

Now, they need to start MCI service. I would love to have them here.
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 3:16 am

Personally I love JetBlue and can't wait until some similar airline is set up in Europe. Top Quality at a low price...HAS to be a winner!

Rgds,
SunCEO.
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 3:23 am

Love Jetblue!!!!! Flew them once between FLL-JFK and will fly them again for sure. Probably this Christmas.
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 5:00 am

My own word to jetBlue "haters":

Face it - B6 and WN have winning game plans that your favorite "full-service" majors refuse to acknowledge--in spite of all the evidence that keeps on mounting. Could it be that that the "hate" you have toward jetBlue (and probably other no-frills airlines as well) is really about your resistance to facing the truth that the game plans of your favorite majors have become discredited by the success of B6 and WN?
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 5:06 am

Of course I jetBlue!!!!!!!!


jetBlue Airways...Somebody Up There Likes You!!!

jetBlueRules Smile/happy/getting dizzy Smile/happy/getting dizzy Smile/happy/getting dizzy Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 5:24 am

GO JETBLUE!! Big thumbs up Big thumbs up Big thumbs up

They are considering weather they should start service to CMH. I hope they do!
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 5:33 am

JetBlue's success is due to high qaulity. Good value at a fair price... next.

Support quality, by buying value when you purchase air travel.

JetBlue may become so successful that a major airline will have to buy them up, to reduce the competition?

Look at the domestic schedule readjustments out of JFK? Could they be effecting AA and UA?

 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 6:39 am

>>JetBlue may become so successful that a major
>>airline will have to buy them up, to reduce the >>competition?

I don't see that happening. Neeleman would never sell out his airline. He's not the kind of person to build up an airline and then sell it to the highest bidder.

The only way I see JetBlue being sold is if Neeleman retires and a new, money-hungry CEO is installed in there.

- Neil Harrison
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 7:41 am

Neil,

Isn't David Neeleman the same man who built up Morris Air in the Northeast only to turn around and sell it to Southwest in 1997?

So Neeleman might indeed sell out his airline---its at least a possibility given his past.
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 9:35 am

Bove: David Neeleman did not own Morris Air. Its owner, June Morris, sold Morris Air to Southwest. When David Neeleman opted not to go with Southwest, he was made to sign a 5-year non-compete clause, during which time he was instrumental in founding Westjet (which was allowed since WS is not a competitor to WN). Info is from an article found at fortune.com, "A Smokeless Herb" the subject of which is Mr. Neeleman.
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 10:02 am

Hi Greg!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 1:23 pm

If B6 is willing to buy well-maintained low-hours CFM56-powered A320's, they could get them for a song with many airlines retrenching their operations.

I'd love to see B6 fly OAK-JFK and SJC-JFK with more flights.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 2:21 pm

i love jetblue! they send stuff! i also love the way the CEO will clean planes and serve drinks  Big thumbs up keep it up guys and girls!
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 2:26 pm

Thanks for that valuable info Tango-bravo...I knew Neeleman had a hand with Morris somehow just wasn't sure where. Will be sure to look for that article.
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 3:12 pm

>>Isn't David Neeleman the same man who built up
>>Morris Air in the Northeast only to turn around and
>>sell it to Southwest in 1997?

I believe Morris Air was sold in the early 90s. From all my research, I have never found out the real reason why he sold it to Southwest.

My guess is that it couldn't make it through the downturn in the economy in the Gulf War era.

However, Neeleman has poured a lot of blood, sweat, and tears into JetBlue. I would find it extremely unlikely that after all that work he's put into this airline that he'll just turn around and sell it out.

- Neil Harrison
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Sun Oct 14, 2001 9:16 pm

Neil, as pointed out by Tango-Bravo, June Morris was the owner of Morris Air.

There was a brief write-up in the Airport Report Express on December 15, 1993 when it was first announced that Southwest planned to purchase Morris Air. Note the last paragraph as to the reason June Morris wanted to sell the company.

SOUTHWEST TO PURCHASE MORRIS AIR

Southwest Airlines said it will acquire look-alike carrier Morris Air, based in Salt Lake City, in a stock swap valued at $129 million. The transaction will extend Southwest's system into the Pacific Northwest, where Morris serves Seattle, Portland, Ore., and 20 other destinations.

According to an announcement from Southwest, the share exchange transaction will close on Dec. 31, subject to receipt of Justice Department approval and fulfillment of other unspecified conditions. Morris began scheduled operations in 1993 after operating as a charter-only carrier for eight years.

Herb Kelleher, chairman of Southwest, said the linkage of the two airline systems, which do not compete, will provide "more low fare competition, more quickly, to a greater area of our country and to more American consumers. Since our low fare and entrepreneurial philosophies and policies are identical; our methods of operation are very similar; and we fly the same type of aircraft, the 737-300, I am convinced that the transitional integration of Morris Air into Southwest over a period of several years will be substantially eased and facilitated. In addition, the great majority of permanent Morris employees will be offered employment at Southwest, and Southwest will continue to maintain an operating presence and reservations center in Salt Lake City. Finally, based upon the anticipated 1993 and projected 1994 profits of Morris Air, its acquisition is not anticipated to dilute, but, instead, to augment, the earnings per share of Southwest." Kelleher also said that to the extent the nation's mega-carriers plan to launch low-fare, short-haul operations, the purchase of Morris Air "represents an effective response" by Southwest.

In a comparison of the two airlines provided by Southwest, Morris had 1992 net income of $5.3 million and has a fleet of 21 737 jets. Service similarities between the two carriers were listed as: comparable low fares, low costs; no assigned seating; both use plastic boarding cards; neither serve meals; both have all 737 fleet, and offer point-to-point service.

June Morris, founder of Morris Air, said she approached Southwest to purchase her carrier due to a combination of "personal concerns and future business concerns." According to published reports, Morris was recently diagnosed with breast cancer and said she wanted more leisure time to spend with her husband.

LoneStarMike

 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Mon Oct 15, 2001 12:55 am

I haven't flown B6 yet and I like them already. That should tell you how they define their image!!  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Mon Oct 15, 2001 1:56 am

their lawyers won't let decals makers do their livery. poo to them.
When in doubt, one B pump off
 
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RE: To All JetBlue Haters(and Fans Are Welcome Too!):

Mon Oct 15, 2001 3:06 am

Thanks LoneStarMike!

That's cleared up a lot.  Big thumbs up

- Neil Harrison