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Ryanair Transatlantic

Mon Oct 15, 2001 4:21 pm

Ryanair are introducing new routes again and have indicated their willingness to take over certain routes that flag carriers have recently ditched owing to the downturn in customer demand and other more chronic problems.
Will Ryanair ever start longer, transatlantic flights, and if so, how much can they sustain the 'no-frills' policy on these flights, and what aircraft will they use?
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RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Mon Oct 15, 2001 4:29 pm

No. They might spread a few rumours here and there, but they won't risk losing a working business model - especially not at this time. Furthermore, even though they are weathering the storm well, they cannot risk losing their financial reserves.



RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Mon Oct 15, 2001 5:34 pm

Nope, it's just MO'L doing his usual Bransonesque publicity stunts.
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RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Tue Oct 16, 2001 3:51 am

I would guess it's kicking your competitors when they're down, Ryanair is viewed by investors as a real force and the major are viewed as basket cases. By playing on this Ryanair, could if it wanted to, start untrue rumors, which leads to their competitors share prices and investor confidence in general falling which will hurt them.

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RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Tue Oct 16, 2001 3:57 am

It would be Peoplexpress redux. They started "no-frills" EWR-LGW flights and they failed miserably. No pax in their right mind would do an 8 hour flight with no in-flight meal service what so ever, and I really doubt they'll buy meals on board. Transatlantic service has a certain charm and mystique about it, even in today's cramped coach cabin, and low-frills flying works great on shot hops, but not any longer than say 2 hours. You think Frontier would be as success as they are flying to the east coast without meal service? I honestly don't see how JetBlue does it without hot meals on transcons.
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RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Tue Oct 16, 2001 4:46 am

I wish they already did, then Sept.11th would have really hit them too, so none of the gleeful crowing from O'Leary this last month.
And I've have loved have heard him ask, through gritted teeth, for aid.
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RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Tue Oct 16, 2001 4:50 am

Your bone's got a little machine
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RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Tue Oct 16, 2001 5:52 am

Laker Airways tried it. 2x weekly MIA-LGW and 2x weekly FLL-LGW. They actually did get decent load factors on DC-10s, but still failed.
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RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Tue Oct 16, 2001 5:54 am

Please explain the obsession with hot meals.

Would you rather fly with 35"pitch with box lunch and snacks, or 30"pitch with a hot meal?
I can drive faster than you
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RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Tue Oct 16, 2001 8:30 am

Jetblue does it the same way Southwest does it on transcons...
My definition of cool ? Not trying so hard to be cool.
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RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Tue Oct 16, 2001 8:34 am

What aircraft does Ryanair operate overseas and where? Here at MSP, in our main terminal, there are check-in desks for Ryanair! Anyone know anything about that???


RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Tue Oct 16, 2001 6:19 pm

Continental: That would be the US's Ryanair International. Totally different airline.
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RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Tue Oct 16, 2001 6:59 pm

Ryanair CEO use to talk too much and sometime he seems very unfair when he talks about competitor, but he is probably one of the best manager of the aviation sector today (just look at the FR financial report) and I'm pretty sure he knows what happened in the past to who tryed to offer low-cost standard service on transatlantic, so I don't think he will do the same mistake....
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RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Wed Oct 17, 2001 1:03 am

I think it owuld be great! I would definately fly a trans-atlantic no-frills flight! I could simply buy my own meal to take on board (cost approx £3) and probably save about £100 on the fare! Interestingly, Airtours International has started to offer £20 discounts if you choose not have the onboard meal! If airtours cahrges £20 for a "meal" what are the major scheduled airlines charging!!!
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RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Wed Oct 17, 2001 1:24 am

No! it cannot happen.

40 minutes from DUB - LTN was long enough looking at their miserable stewardesses in their almost neon blue uniforms. There is no way I could stomach them transatlantic.!!

RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Wed Oct 17, 2001 3:23 am

There has been talks INSIDE RYANAIR about plans to take over some routes transatlantic. yeh they maybe all talk and no action but all I can say is dont rule the idea out totally.
My boyfriend works for Ryanair and he's giving me all the info he can on this matter- look out for future posts.


RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Wed Oct 17, 2001 4:17 am

The Ryanair 738's are not ETOPS, they would not even get to the US, althought they could probably get back!

RE: Ryanair Transatlantic

Thu Oct 18, 2001 1:52 am

FR wouldnt do it on 738's there has been talks about leasing, once again just rumours! Aer Lingus have made incrediable losses and FR are interested in one of their transatlantic routes.... more to come...

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