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Anybody Here A FF On The Old Frontier?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 3:41 am

I've always had a fascination with this airline. Love both their '70s Gold/Blue "Moon" paint scheme, as well as their '80s Red/Orange/Burgundy paint job. Unfortunately, never had a chance to fly on them.

Am wondering...how was their service, how were their aircraft (did they have first class cabin), did their presence in Denver rival any of the "superhubs" we see today, and what was the largest they ever became. I have some of their old route maps, but wonder what was the most number of aircraft they ever operated?


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RE: Anybody Here A FF On The Old Frontier?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 6:22 am

Here I am joining your club... Yes, I once admired the old livery of Frontier's green and gold past in 70's. I never flew them but always get chance to take some sightseeing at those 737's at RAP. It was cool view of Western and Frontier 737 park by side along with its' Convair 580. When it turned into new livery (red/orange/maroon) I found it hotter but in about five years, I realized this one is short lived and prefer the old one better.
 
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RE: Anybody Here A FF On The Old Frontier?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 7:47 am

In 1981 FL had 45 737's and 15 Convair 580's. FL later bought about 20 MD-80's at the same time it retired all of the convairs, so the total fleet probably never got any higher than 70.
The old Frontier wasn't very big - the new Frontier is catching up pretty fast with 27 (I think) aircraft.
I never flew the old FL, but I know that they were a full service carrier. People express alienated the old Frontier's customer base with their no-frills syle.
Here's a good webpage about the old Frontier:
http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~busew/frontier.html
 
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RE: Anybody Here A FF On The Old Frontier?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 10:15 am

I, too, am a huge fan of the old Frontier. I was booked to take my first flight with them... on the day they ceased to exist!!! I was one bummed-out 10 year old.
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RE: Anybody Here A FF On The Old Frontier?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 12:30 pm

I love the penultimate livery of the old FF! I wish the new FF would use the same livery. I know the new FF livery is to pay tribute to animals....but I think it sucks.

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RE: Anybody Here A FF On The Old Frontier?

Mon Oct 22, 2001 11:44 am

A little off topic, but when I was in the fourth or fifth grade (I think it was 1984) I flew Frotnier Horizon from Dulles to Denver and the service was excellent. If memory serves me correctly they did have a first class cabin, although I was in coach. The aircraft was a 727-100 that was originally with American. I also flew on a Convair 580 to Cheyenne, Wyoming from Denver back in the early 80's. It was during a blinding snow storm I will never forget.
 
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RE: Anybody Here A FF On The Old Frontier?

Mon Oct 22, 2001 12:00 pm

When I was young and had too much money, I used to fly FL every weekend. I grew up in Tucson and would buy a ticket from TUS-PHX to take pictures, or TUS-Silver City NM just because I wanted to ride an airplane. Either route was 20 USD round trip. I rode a whole lot of CV-580s.
The service was excellent. Both segments were snack flights, what today passes for a meal but better food. A small sandwich and two drink passes for everyone. Days that are long gone for good reason. During this same period,I could fly a TWA 707 TUS-ORD unrestricted for 200 USD RT. Adjusted for inflation, this would be near 1100 USD. With a little planning I can do this trip for 350 USD. It may be cheaper to fly today but I sure miss the smiles.
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