DFW777
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Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 4:53 am

A co-worker sent me this interesting article:

http://www.citypaper.net/articles/101801/news.godfrey.shtml

Jeremy Murphy
 
fly_emirates
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 10:33 am

hmm..

thats stupid!
i mean if they did that for him and he is an American.. what do you expect..
i mean tightening security is a must, but not this stupid way
 
thomasphoto60
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 11:00 am

OK, boys and girls lets see if we can altogether say....."Police State!"

Sadly, only the beginning of things to come.


Thomas
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Jonathan L
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 11:40 am

So... United is no longer honoring tickets purchased on September 11th to people who carry books?

What a pile of crap.
 
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 11:44 am

United should be punished for this.
 
IMissPiedmont
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 12:04 pm

And I walked right past an Edward Abbey promo at Barnes & Noble today.
Welcome all you "Americans" that are willing to give up freedom for "security".

"They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Frankin
The day you stop learning is the day you should die.
 
Brick
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 12:30 pm

It serves this tree-hugging, liberal wacko right. This Paul Ehrlich wannabe needs to get a real life...

Mark Abbott
Denver, CO
A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man...
 
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 12:37 pm

Poor guy. Hey NW-ELITE, it reminds me of Mr. Humphries. Anyway, that is stupid. That is rascism in a different form. Not only the airport, but UA too should be punished. I flew PHL-DFW on AA on a 722 6 days after 9/11 and security was extremely tight. The F/A on board blocked the cockpit door with the drink cart.
 
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 12:40 pm

Brick:
What a sick and un-patriotic thing for you to say!
Just because he was reading this book doesn't mean he agree's with the author.
This is a free country and if people like yourself think people should be harassed and punished because of what they read or how they dress, you should move to Afganistan! You will be quite welcomed there!
Bring back the Concorde
 
5280AGL
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 5:53 pm

Oh yes, there are plenty of "American's" willing to give up their liberties for the ILLUSION of security, poor ignorant fools. I am sure the Barbara Boxer's, Ted Kennedy's, and other American communists are drooling over this idea. Just more potential federal power for the liberal whackos, which they are very glad to accept. You watch though, these morons who are screaming for these extreme security measures will do a 180 in about 6 months or so.

Another thing I have noticed lately, we as a country have turned into backstabbing RATS against each other. The country is now full of arm-chair, wannabe, bogus good-samaritans who think it is just to stick their noses in other people's business. Is this being vigilant? NO. There is a difference between being vigilant towards potential threats and just being a scum sucking RAT, like many American's are becoming.

--Chris--
 
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sat Oct 20, 2001 6:18 pm

Next time I fly, I'll be sure not to pack my Star Trek book with the word WAR on the cover.. Or, for that matter, my airliner log, or cd player, or camera, or hell.. I'll just go NAKED.. Geezz. They went WAY to far..

Also, RE: the young mans book: I read a more controversial book in History class: The american Facade- meaning something being passes as something else. Some schools/colleges actually make their students read "questionable" books!

Chris
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sun Oct 21, 2001 3:23 am

I agree with 5280AGL, the line between being vigilent and being on a power-trip is being crossed in many cases. Why are so many people running out for concealed weapons permits after last month? I'm sure thats really what we need, more yahoo's running around packing heat, now I feel less safe since all these nuts have guns on them in public, do they really thing they will get into shoot-out Wild West style with a terrorist??? The national guard at the airports, wow thats some good security. From my observation, I saw a bunch of 19-year olds with a few 40-somethings standing around sipping on Starbucks observing the screening area and talking with each other. Then they go and interview these guys staying how they've left their wife and kids, their job, etc to do this because they felt they had to help America. More or less, they wanted to feel powerful.
When I flew the last time the first week of October, this teenage girl ahead of me in line had to have her checked luggage searched and she was getting all pissed off cuz this dorky-looking 30 year-old agent was picking through her bras & underwear looking for "bombs". I also don't understand why I need to show my ID 4 times. For instance I flew out of DTW to SCE. I had to get a boarding pass printed up from an E-Ticket so I had to present ID at the check-in counter. Next I had to present ID with my ticket to get through security. Then I had to show ID at the gate where they board you on the bus to your flight. Then finally I had to show ID to the flight attendant as I got on the plane after getting off the bus. Seems multiply repetitive and I question how good these people are at spotting fakes.
I'm sorry, maybe I'm just pissed off cuz this is the way it has to be. I'm pissed that someone took some planes and decided to use them as missles. I'm pissed off cuz some people think its funny to mail anthrax. I'm pissed off because I have to interogated and under the watchful eye everytime I do anything: fly, go to the mall, go to city hall, go to Canada, etc. Some people in this world really know how to try and ruin it for everyone.
 
flymia
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sun Oct 21, 2001 4:10 am

There is no such thing of to much security.
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
 
Turbolet
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sun Oct 21, 2001 5:26 am

Now that is going a bit too far. Ok, we saw what happened, we all know it's time to put up with a bit more security. But to sacrifice everything, to get on the plane naked, to have to explain what one is carrying and why... that's all going a bit too far. IMHO, the least intrusive way of finding weapons should be employed, full stop. But, by reading a book about whatever, noone is presenting a security threat. I mean, you could be reading a biography of Bin Laden, but if you're not carrying weapons, how can anyone stop you?
Unfortunately the authorities are not realising that by lengthily 'screening' and humiliating the passengers, they're discouraging them from flying. In turn, airlines will go bankrupt, airports will close and the FAA will lose its importance, too.
Yes, security has to be there, but like with everything, a healthy compromise must be found. Multi-zone metal detectors and bodyscans and x-ray machines with added explosive detection capability should, if used properly and by competent staff, provide adequate security in a short time. And all the four-times ID check stuff is useless. As for me, if the situation with security doesn't improve and level off to a sane condition, I won't fly. I'm sure hundreds of travelers share my opinons.
-turbolet
 
oflove13
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sun Oct 21, 2001 5:41 am

yea i think security and the parania has gone a bit to far also, i think those terrist succeded in doing what they wanted to even if they dont do anything else they made us ALL prisioners in our own homes.
I was cmcling home from tol the other day after a flight. i checked 2 bags and brought one on the plane with me. well i went through the metal detector and of corse set it off and the MP standing there used the wand ond pated me down and let me pass. my bags went through the x ray machine and then after that they opened them and serched through everything and took the bags that were being checked and gave me the one that was being brought on and let me go.
they called our plane for boarding but when it was bording they called my name over the speaker and told me to remaine seated. after everyone has boarded they then called me up to the counter and sent me over to a table. a lady there took my carry one and then serched it again and then she took the metal dector and checked me again, i was wondering why they were sercing me again after i already cleared security but i kept my mouth shut because i didnt want to miss my flight. just like the first time i was cleared and let on the plane. the other flight attedants i was comming home with were teasing me the whole flight after we landed in NY the pilot came out they were like here comes the pilot i bet he wants to serch u before they let u off the plane now we just laughed about it. (after delta security at JFK the most unplesent flight attendants ive ever had and all these hastles comming back on them i am so over delta) i see why alot of people dont fly anymore its such a damn hastle getting on the plane.
 
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sun Oct 21, 2001 6:14 am

The fault lies with the simple fact that half-assed, doughnut & coffee security companies who employee people who are barely literate let alone educated in high rish profiling are running the US airport security system.

Fire them all. Fast.
 
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RE: Security Going A Bit Too Far?

Sun Oct 21, 2001 9:36 am

This is what I call "Placebo Security." It has absolutely no real effect, but makes people feel better.

If today's security had been in effect on Sept 11, would there have been a different outcome? NO! Smart terrorists don't confront security measures; they go around them. We have implemented a highly expensive, impractical, and time consuming system to prevent against stupid terrorists.

I've been on 4 domestic US flights since Sept 11, and each visit yields a more absurd confrontation with security. On my flight last Thursday, the agent in BOS scanning me with his "magic wand" seem surprised that my belt buckle caused his hypersensitive device to beep. Duh.

-Marc.