jared
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Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Mon Oct 22, 2001 12:18 pm

Hey,

I am wondering what you all think about what would be the best small plane to own.

I someday dream of owning a small plane, which are the fastest? I am talking a 6 seater maximum, probably 4 seater.

I really dig Mooneys. A multi-engine plane such as a Seneca isn't out of the question though. I know those will be faster than single engines but also more costly.

Cessna 152s can be had for $22k but with a cruise speed of 90kt I don't imagine it would be very good for more than a quick little hop.

Which makes the most sense to own?
 
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Mon Oct 22, 2001 12:24 pm

Ummm, I fly the 172 and it's okay, but if I had a choice for a private turboprop I'd go with a PC-12, or maybe a Mooney. (Not saying there's nothing wrong with a Falcon900 or G5 though! Except we're talkin around 30-50 billion!  Love )
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Mon Oct 22, 2001 1:48 pm

buy a Maule M-6 or M-7

for performance find 235 HP
for economy go with 180 HP

go with a taildragger, you'll love it

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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Mon Oct 22, 2001 3:41 pm

The TBM 700 would be nice, so would a PC-12. If going for a piston single then maybe a Socata TB21 Trinidad?
 
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Mon Oct 22, 2001 4:43 pm

JOC, how long would a trip from say, DTW-TPA take in a Cessna 172? How many stops and stuff?

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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Mon Oct 22, 2001 5:37 pm

BEECH BONANZA!!!!!!!!
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Mon Oct 22, 2001 6:32 pm


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I like something a little different and larger...
Like one of those brilliant EMB121 Xingu planes they look great like a larger commuter turboprop with a wider cabin than a uninteresting cessna i strongly suggest it to any 6 seater buyer. A beautiful airliner/private craft. My preference by far!
 
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 5:35 am

get a bonanza a36tc good 200 knot "doctor killer"
 
Notar520AC
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 5:43 am

Yeah! Beech Bonanzas are awesome too!
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jared
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 6:12 am

Mmm...all good suggestions.

Bonanzas seat 6 though, which seems a bit big, even though i'm sure those back to seats are tiny.

Mooneys are badass but cost a pretty penny, even for older ones.

Mooneys and Bonanzas can both zip around pretty quickly though, which rocks.

Here is a cool little chart I found:

http://www.etruria.com/comparison180.html

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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 8:10 am

What about your own personal jet?

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jared
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 8:12 am

I don't plan on having THAT much money.  Smile
 
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 10:53 am

A former sstudent of mine see sawed back and forth between the Mooney Ovation and teh A36, before finally going for the A36. The reasons were that they were nearly the same speed but the Beechcraft at leats had more passenegrs optiosn, or even loading options. The back area is very roomy and every non pilot that went up in the test flight preffered the Beechcraft as it was roomier and easier to get in and out of with the huge double doors. That plus you can get AC in it, nice.
 
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:42 am

For me, the best aircraft to own will always be a Glider. It is flying for flying's sake.

Check out (many pics here in airliners.net) the Stemme at http://www.stemme.de/ it is one of the best GLIDERS out there, has an amazing design with foldable props. It has no trade offs being an excellent glider, and can be used as a prop plane for trips.
 
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:49 am

Lancair Columbia 300!!




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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 12:52 pm

The Pilatypus PC-12 is quite an amazing aircraft. It's approach speed is quite amazing for an aircraft that size, akin to that of the Bonanza, I think.

Too bad the base price for one is over 2 million U.S. dollars...
 
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 1:36 pm

Pilatus PC-12 would be my choice...speed of a bizjet with turboprop economy. Though I don't have $3 million lying around right now...

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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 1:40 pm

Piper Malibu Meridian baby!

You cant go wrong with a Bonanza though.. what a great aircraft.
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 1:48 pm

I will always have a reverence for the classic V-tailed Bonanza... there is just something about it.

But I have been torn by the what plane question myself.

Don't overlook the Cherokee 235/Challenger/Dakota... it has been overshadowed by the C-182 Skylane, but can cruise around 140kts and lift a decent load.

The Socota singles are not too bad, very roomy inside. Next to the Commanders they have the widest cabin in a 4-place single.

I also love the Saratoga... whether a fixed gear, retract, turbo or not it has to be one of the most versitile planes out there. HUGE cabin and they hold their value like crazy. Nearly matching the prices of model 36 Bonanzas, but bigger albeit slower. If all things were equal a 'Toga II TC would probably be my first choice.

The Mooneys are nice, the newer the better, wicked fast, but quite tiny inside... the long cabin models are a bit better, but still narrow as a Bonanza.

If you want to look at new planes, go check out the new Cessna Turbo Skylane... very impressive performance numbers... 160ktas at 10,000' with the gear dragging in the breeze... not too shabby.
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 8:54 pm

I would suggest you the Pilatus PC-12.
http://www.pilatus-aircraft.com
 
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 9:35 pm

I recommend you to buy a Long EZ or a Vary EZ. You can buy one fished for 20000 $ and they can cruise at 180 mph.

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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 9:40 pm

Beware of twin engined aircraft. They do seem nice at first but are far more expensive to run and not much faster (the second engine is needed mostly to lift itself and its fuel in the smaller ones).
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 9:42 pm

You can get a multi engine plane for $50,000 and on. I've seen a Cessna 414 on sale for $122,000. Not that bad.

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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 9:42 pm

For a single I would choose a Monney, Piper Archer III or a Katana

For a twin Id choose a King Air (any type) or a Beech Duchess.
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Tue Oct 23, 2001 10:18 pm

The Socata TB21 GT
 
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Wed Oct 24, 2001 1:13 am

I agree with the PC-12 choice. That's my dream aircraft. Then again, so is the BBJ and Falcon FNX !!!  Big thumbs up Anyway, the PC-12 has excellent range, over 2,000 nm max. Very good performance. Well under 3,000' for takeoff and landings. 65 knots stall speed. (good for slow approaches) 275 knots max criuse speed. And it can carry a ton, literally. Max payload 2,700+ lbs.

PC-12 for me!
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Wed Oct 24, 2001 1:17 am

I like the Cessnna172. It is not the most good looking or the fastest or anything, but, it is good and reliable. Also, a B1900D would be nice, but that may be a little more expensive.
 
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 12:34 am

for weekend flying i'd love to own a small 2 seater ultralight, the kind i saw in the film "Gods must be crazy". dont remember the name, but it was a 2-engne ultralight.

for more serious flying, and if i had the cash, i'd go in for a King Air, 7 seater. it can operate out of semi-prepared runways, has a pressurised cabin, can be equipped with the latest navigation and entertainment gizmos, and has the range to operate non-stop. It is also reasonably fast though a cross country trip BOM-CCU would take over 5 hours (as compared to a 2.25 hr trip by a commercial jet).
 
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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 1:20 am

PA-28-181 Archer III

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RE: Best Small Aircraft To Own?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 3:06 am

Cirus. they make a 4 and 6 seater. fast, economical, modern, with glass in the cockpit. Also, quite roomy for the size.
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