contrails
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AA To Fly DCA-STL Routes

Tue Oct 23, 2001 10:22 pm

AA announced yesterday that it will begin service between DCA and STL, replacing that of TWA, which it now owns.

AA will fly 3 round trips daily, using Fokker 100's.

No word on what gates AA will use in STL. Since most routes out of STL are still done by TWA, connections could be a bit more difficult if flights use AA gates instead of TWA's. AA's schedule isn't as good as TWA's was either.



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RE: AA To Fly DCA-STL Routes

Tue Oct 23, 2001 10:45 pm

F100s seem kinda small for that route with that little frequency. Why? If they are only going to be able to operate 3 flights a day then why not at least MD80s?
 
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RE: AA To Fly DCA-STL Routes

Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:33 pm

It gets bumped up to MD-80 service 11/1 and to 6 times daily 12/1
 
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RE: AA To Fly DCA-STL Routes

Wed Oct 24, 2001 1:25 am

I was going to fly TWA for the last time Dec 7, STL-DCA. Now I'll have fly into Dulles and take the Metro into DCA.
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RE: AA To Fly DCA-STL Routes

Wed Oct 24, 2001 1:38 am

There is no METRO RAIL service from Dulles, which is in Loudon County, VA and Downtown Washington, DC. Arriving into Dulles, you would most likely be taking a "Washington Flyer" cab or van. That is the cab company that has a monopoly on Dulles Airport. Although I fly out of Dulles a lot, I never use that cab service, drive myself, so I do not know what the prices are. There has been talk about building a light rail service from the city out to Dulles, but that would be light years away at this point. Now on the otherhand, Regan National has a METRO RAIL stop right there outside of the Delta Airlines ticket counter.
 
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RE: AA To Fly DCA-STL Routes

Wed Oct 24, 2001 2:44 am

From IAD you can get a Washington Flyer bus to the West Falls Church Metro station, and from there you can take MetroRail into DC. I don't recall the cost, but it isn't too much.

There have been discussions for years about extending MetroRail to IAD, including just last week. But I won't believe it until I step off the train at IAD.

One thing for sure, Washington Flyer is definently an onerous monopoly.
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RE: AA To Fly DCA-STL Routes

Wed Oct 24, 2001 4:52 am

Why spend $8 from IAD to West Falls Church metrostation on the Washington Flyer. Don't you guys know that the Metrobus operates from IAD for $1.10? They operate from IAD at the main terminal to Herdon to Rossyln Metro station to La Font Plaza in DC. All that for $1.10. It sure beats paying $8 or $16 on the Washington Flyer. The metrobus bus runs hourly on weekdays from like 5am til 11pm. On weekends it runs from like 5-12pm hourly and then 3-11pm hourly, something like that. The bus number is 5A.

Once when Phase III starts, I'm sure AA will increase frequency to STL and use the MD80 equipment.

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RE: AA To Fly DCA-STL Routes

Thu Oct 25, 2001 8:25 pm

I had no idea MetroBus offered service from IAD to Rossyln. Thanks for the info.
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RE: AA To Fly DCA-STL Routes

Thu Oct 25, 2001 9:30 pm

No problem, they started the service since sometimes last year.

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Why Is AA Doing This?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 10:06 pm

TWA, LLC is still the dominant carrier at Lambert. Why don't they just transition this to AA when the general merging of operations occurs?

This would just seem to add needles confusion for connecting passengers.

Also I think TWA's labor costs are lower so I would think they would want to use them anyway.

My guess: To put pressure on TWA's unions to hurry up and approve what AA's management wants. They have shut down JFK and now DCA. What's next? Without system seniority agreements in place, that puts TWA people on the street.
 
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RE: AA To Fly DCA-STL Routes

Fri Oct 26, 2001 12:52 am

Actually, IMO what is happening is that AA and TWA are coordinating their flights

Why have two carriers fly STL-DFW/ORD/LAX/LGA/DCA when one carrier can do all the flying.

Same with all the other 6000-7599 flights TWA now operates on behalf of AA (mainly midwest routes like CMH, DTW, as far west as COS).

It's a trade off, More people expecting to fly AA will be on TWA and people on TWA will be on AA. Getting the equiptment in place will make the transition easier.

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