heavymetal
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Fire Burger Flippers NOW....

Thu Oct 25, 2001 5:47 am

I don't care if its national guard troops, state cops or whatever....the companies running airport security have proven, and continue to prove they have no clue or accountability other than "stiff fines"....

Need any more proof? Fine. Think long and hard about how secure our flight process is supposed to be in this post 9/11 day and age.....then read this:

http://www.cnn.com/2001/TRAVEL/NEWS/10/24/passenger.surrenders/index.html
 
Spitfire
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RE: Fire Burger Flippers NOW....

Thu Oct 25, 2001 5:59 am

Doesn't the citizen of Texas have the right to bear a concealed weapon. I can't remember...
Just a question.
Rgds.
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heavymetal
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RE: Fire Burger Flippers NOW....

Thu Oct 25, 2001 6:02 am

In Texas, Florida and some other states you can carry a concealed weapon provided you have passed a required two week certification class and process.

However, it is a federal offense to carry said weapon into a school, a bar, or onto an airplane...indeed there's almost as many places you CANT have it on you as you can.
 
Spitfire
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RE: Fire Burger Flippers NOW....

Thu Oct 25, 2001 6:03 am

Thanks for the info.
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mls515
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RE: Fire Burger Flippers NOW....

Thu Oct 25, 2001 6:20 am

Interesting story, but I still don't see how you could 'forget' you were carrying the gun. If you got robbed, would you 'forget' then! Or maybe he just didn't make the connection that he should shed it before going into the airport?

Make no mistake though, I'm all for an armed populace except for extreme cases where security doesn't permit it, like when you fly on an airplane.
 
Spitfire
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RE: Fire Burger Flippers NOW....

Thu Oct 25, 2001 6:23 am

You have a very little Derringer that is "hidden" in a belt-buckle (.22 single shot model).
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milldoh
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RE: Fire Burger Flippers NOW....

Thu Oct 25, 2001 6:25 am

It was not clear why security screeners did not discover the gun...

LOL!! I love it!!
 
LoneStarMike
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RE: Fire Burger Flippers NOW....

Thu Oct 25, 2001 7:51 am

Here's more on the story:

Man carries gun on New Orleans-Phoenix flight
By DOUG SIMPSON
The Associated Press
10/24/01 1:08 PM

NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- A man carried a loaded gun through security checkpoints at the New Orleans airport Tuesday and boarded a Southwest Airlines flight before turning the gun over to a flight attendant.

FBI spokesman Ed Hall said the man didn't realize he had the Derringer pistol inside his briefcase until the 737 had left New Orleans for Phoenix. The FBI questioned the man in Phoenix but was not charged because he had no intent to commit a crime, Hall said.

"We interviewed him. We checked his history and determined it was innocent, poor judgment," Hall said.

It was not clear why a security agent did not spot the gun when it went through the X-ray machine.

A security worker has been fired in connection with the incident, said Southwest spokesperson Whitney Brewer.

She said the company that provides security at the New Orleans airport, International Total Services, is in bankruptcy.

ITS officials did not immediately return calls for comment Wednesday.

Hall would not identify the man, but Phoenix police said he was a businessman from Mississippi. He said the man told a flight attendant, "I've done something wrong" when he realized he had the gun with him.

Hall said the man gave the gun to the flight attendant, who gave it to the pilot who locked it in the cockpit. It was returned to the man in Phoenix.

Roy Williams, director of aviation at Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport, said airport officials would meet with the Federal Aviation Administration about the incident, even though airlines are responsible for hiring security companies.

"The airport will be working with Southwest Airlines and the FAA to find ways to improve the process," Williams said. "We're very serious about security and continue to investigate the situation."

http://www.nola.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?n3057_BC_LA--AirplaneGun&&news&gunonplane

Question about MSY security - the article mentions that "the company that provides security at the New Orleans airport, International Total Services, is in bankruptcy.". Does this company supply security for all the airlines who use MSY or just for the airlines that use the same concourse as Southwest? If it's for all the airlines, who makes the decision about what security firm to use, the dominant airline at MSY or the airport itself?

Also, are there any US Airlines which actually handle their own security, or do they all contract with outside companies?

LoneStarMike

 
thomasphoto60
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RE: Fire Burger Flippers NOW....

Thu Oct 25, 2001 8:34 am

I agree, these companies have to go! Their whole business philosphy is to bring in individuals with little education, no law enforcement background and few incentives (i.e. low pay and no hopes for advancement) and burn them out! These companies have a notoriously high turn over rate, just check out the employment want ads in any major US newspaper.


If there is one area in our airports that needs to be federalized this is that area! If I remember correctly the company(ies) that handle security @ IAH are ITS and Huntleigh, frankly as someone who flies at least 3 times a month, especially after 9/11, I do not get a very secure feeling when a poorly trained, GED'ed, $6.50 hour kid is screening my bags while hitting on his female co-worker.

Bring in the Feds!

Thomas
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VirginA340
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RE: Fire Burger Flippers NOW....

Thu Oct 25, 2001 9:23 am

Reminds me of the incompetant secutiy comapny called Alert that did security for PAN AM That comapny was overseen by PA management. I've been saying for years that Customs, State Troopers or National guard needs to do security. Half the time these organizations had so many people that they didn't know what to do with them. We'll now they have their answer. The FEDS should be incharge of security. The airlines can't cut it!
"FUIMUS"