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What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 7:23 am

What planes would you like to see go back into production that aren't being built anymore?

I'd love to see Lockheed build new L-1011s, and Boeing should bring back the 727 and the 747-100.

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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 7:47 am

Convair should bring back the CV880/990(coronado) with a wider cabin, same engines though  Big thumbs up It would be unbeatable.

 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 7:50 am

The Fokker 100 with BR715 engines, and the Lockheed L-1011-500, with a two-man flight crew, upgraded avionics & RR Trent 500 engines. These planes would be so sweet to see again.  Wink/being sarcastic Regards.
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 7:50 am

Fokker and Douglas all the way!!! To heck with progress!  Big grin
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 7:55 am

Fokker50!!!!

Forgot about that..
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 7:58 am

I think Boeing should bring back the B737-100 with BR715 Engines. THAT would be the A318 Killer. They could sell the 717 to airlines with large MD-80 fleets and the 737-100 to airlines with large 737 fleets. They would need to keep the flight deck common to the NGs of course.

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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 8:26 am

Boeingmd82 -

Nice idea with the 737-100, but wouldn't that be a little too similar to the existing (but poorly selling) 737-600?  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 9:19 am

Well the B737-100 is about 10 feet shorter than the -600, putting it smack into the 100 seater category. (LH operated the -100 in the 96 passenger layout.)

The BR715 engines, designed for higher cycle duty, would cost less to operate for short flights, < 1.5 hours. The CFM56 engine is great for longer flights, but as Aloha Airlines found out, is not a good choice for high cycle work.

The A/C would be marketed as an ultra efficient workhorse for shuttle flights. This would also be a perfect aircraft to replace existing B737-200adv.

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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 9:28 am

I agree with Boeingmd82. Bring back the 737-100/200 with the upgraded engines. That comment is good enough for him to appear on my Respected Users list.

Also I think the L-1011 should be brought back into production but with some kind of Pratt & Whitney Engines.

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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 10:29 am

L-1011 definitely.
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 10:47 am

I also love the Lockheed L1011, but to bring it back into production, Lockheed would have to make it stand out to be sucessful.

How about an A340 competitor:

Lockheed L1011-250 Advanced

Super long range 10,000+ with one less engine.
Larger cabin than A340 (The classic L1011 has a wider cross section than the A340)
Advanced flight deck 2 pilots, with relief quarters for long trips.
Quick Change on all models for freight operations.

Perhaps they could include a "domestic" mode that would disable the center engine and deploy a fairing over the center engine intake. And use the no 2 engine just for long range flights and emergency operations. I know, it sounds pretty out there. The machine would need to very versitile, it could theoretically replace a 777-200 and a 777-200er with one aircraft that can do either job. I belive this is the only way an airline would consider a tri-jet in the same class as the 777.

It would be hard for the new L1011 to break into the domestic market with all the 777s / 767s and soon A330s flying around.

Well, Just my 2c

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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 10:59 am

The DC-3/C-47 line. Still hasn't been replaced properly.

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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 11:07 am

L1011-500 and B727-200

These planes with new avionics, new engines and what ever the new technologies can do, would be leaders in their segments.

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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 11:18 am

I'd love to see the Boeing 707 with BR715 engines. Granted, the profile of the PW JT-3Ds would be gone, but I could live with that. Even after more than 4 decades, the 707 is one classy airplane. And please, Boeing, keep the 1960s interior over the tacky "superjet" arrangement of the early 1970s. I miss those big dome lights that turned blue at night and the passenger service units. The plane would be reasonable economical and would look great in one of the retrojet schemes floating around these days.
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 11:23 am

Okay, I'm all for the L1011, 731, CV-880/990 thing....

 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 1:35 pm

what about concord? I am sure even now many airlines would scrap up the money to buy some. Are you out there Richard Branson?


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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 1:38 pm

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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 1:47 pm

MD-11! No ETOPS and a great cargo plane. I'm sure Boeing could've refined and improved the avionics.
Would've loved to see the MD-87 do better also...
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 1:52 pm

The B707 and B727

Anybody out their for the DC6...?
I didn't think so.
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 3:55 pm

Tu-114 Big grin
Tu-144 with modern engines and avionics. Eat that, Sonic Cruiser!
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 4:08 pm

MD-90
MD-11
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 4:11 pm

MD-11....

or rather the whole MDC.!!!...and upgraded A300-600R (named A300-800)and A310-400!!
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 4:16 pm

Come on.....bring back the 747SP!



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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 5:17 pm

The Boeing 727 with fuel efficient/hushkitted engines, an EFIS 2 crew flightdeck, new style cabin interior etc
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 5:21 pm

DC-3... There's only one viable replacement for a DC-3, and that's another DC-3!

Andy

Oh, or failing that, the Curtiss C-46 Commando  Big grin
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 8:24 pm

Andy, I also like the DC-3. but saying there is no replacement is not very right.

Fairchild Dornier 228/328, Beech 1900, Dash Twin Otter, Dash Q-100, etc etc

But the only direct replacement for A300/A310 is another A300/310. JAS did that by ordering more A300-600s to replace its A300-B4.  Big thumbs up I kno i am a little bias.

B763 (non-ER, maybe ER) shall replace A310-300...
B764ER shall replace A300-600R...although these are direct but nearest replacement in terms of capacity.
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Thu Oct 25, 2001 8:45 pm





MD-80's...MD-11,B727(re-engined of course).

Ah!...the FOKKER 100 too!!!
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 12:17 am

DC-9, MD-80, 737-200, and the DC-10
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 12:25 am

Actually it would be great to see the A300 and A310 back in production, especially because neither Airbus nor Boeing managed to build a real alternative to these beautiful and comfortable widebodies.
Furthermore many cargo airlines are certainly not amused about the fact that Boeing dropped the MD-11.
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 12:25 am

L1011 and the TU 144.
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 12:29 am

Definately, the 5 star tristar !
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 12:30 am

Super Connie, though increased in size, about 744 size.
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 5:39 am

It would be great to see a new generation of tri-jets roll off the production line! DC-10, 727-200, MD-11, and my personal favorite, L-1011.

They should, as mentioned somewhere above, bring back the DC-3. It would be neat if maybe Boeing launched a new generation DC-3 for the 21st Century.

I forgot about the F-100. That's a great plane. It should make a comeback!

I agree that the 737-100 would give the A318 some competition, but would they have a lot of info to work with, considering only 30 were built?

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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 7:51 am

Boeing should bring back the 747-300 with 777-style airfoils and wings. The engines should be more like the 744's. That would be great!
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 7:56 am

Vickers Viscount and VC-10!
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 8:46 am

The DC-6
There is absolutely NO other aircraft that can carry 32,000 lbs and land/takeoff on a dirt 3,500 ft strip! There are about 100 still in use and I know that current operators are thinking- when the good old P&W R2800s are finally gone, they wont have another aircraft to replace it with. Good bye to mail/cargo/outsized delivery into Alaska villages by anything other than smaller a/c like Beech 1900s or larger planes like Hercs that cant land on such short strips!

The MD-11, no doubt there is a huge demand for the MD-11F; Fed-Ex, UPS and Lufthansa would have ordered more, Boeing could probably get orders if they just hinted as a re-start of the assembly line. Delta learned their lesson w/ the 777 (pilot union trauma) and the 767-400 (insufficient range), the might like some new MD-11s with the improvements that the last 10 years could have brought.
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 8:55 am

Why in the hell would you want to bring back the 747-100 or the 737-200 for gods sakes. I just don't get that, I can see your point with the 707, L1011, MD-11 or the DC-10. they were all great planes that are not made anymore. What the hell's wrong with the 747-400 or the 737-ng series?
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 9:29 am


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Definately the chubby 747SP

I also wish they made those double decker DC-10, L1011 and 747 Designs.
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 9:31 am

All of the MD-80 family.
 
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RE: Woodsboy

Fri Oct 26, 2001 11:03 am

The Herky can't land on a 3500' strip. Damn I wish I'd know that last time I rode one into, and out of, a 3000' strip. Fully loaded outbound no less. I guess I'm really dead after the fiery crash and haven't accepted it yet.
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 12:06 pm

Definitely the L-1011, longer version (1, 50, 100, 200)
but called the L-1011-600 with a 2 man-crew and redesiged RR engines!!! Smile
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 12:07 pm

The Concorde...........
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 6:18 pm

Caravelle (with new engines)
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 6:58 pm

The Dc 8 of course. I think the DC 8-73 would still be an economical aircraft.
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 7:17 pm

Great post DeltaRules!

B727, a 21st century quieter, fuel efficient version of the legendary.


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I would also say Concorde, although they would never be the same as the original ones. I think there will be a 21st century 'version' of Concorde one day, but again it would be a whole new aircraft.. meanwhile here are some pics..


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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 10:05 pm

MD-11!
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Sat Oct 27, 2001 12:49 am

The Fokker 50/27, The Constalation, MD11 and the AN225 are welcome any time!
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Sun Oct 28, 2001 1:22 am

I would like to see back into production :

1. Boeing 727 (2 class, 200 pax, mid range)

2. VC-10 (2 class, 240 pax, long range)

3. TU-144 SST (1 class, 150 pax, long range, Mach 2)

Just those 3, and I'm not asking much, am I ?
 
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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Sun Oct 28, 2001 1:39 am

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RE: What Planes Should Be Back In Production?

Sun Oct 28, 2001 1:42 am

The MD-11 was cancelled too early. While it does compete with the 772, the MD-11F does not. LH was probably willing to buy more. They could have kept the line open with as few as 8 aircraft built/year.

Of course, I don't know all the costs assoc with a low production line.
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