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What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 4:51 am

During what stage of flight do most accidents occur for commercial jets. I know for General aviation its while joining the circuit.
 
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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 4:51 am

At takeoff when an engine hasn't done much, and then its reved up to full power.
 
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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 4:52 am

I believe it is TO and landing.
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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 4:54 am

Yes landing as well.
 
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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 4:55 am

Most crashes occur on Landing.
 
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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 4:56 am

Take-off, climbing to FL, approach, and landing. Usually, accidents don't happen often during the cruise.
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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 4:57 am

Well I shouldn't say most crashes occur at takeoff, but an engine which has been sitting mostly idle and has not had much power applied to it, and then is asked to go full throttle down a runway in a matter of seconds, there is a big possibility for an engines failure, but not a crash.
 
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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 5:00 am

Statistically, it's final approach and landing. These two stages of flight account for only 3% of the total flight time (on average) but 47% of all accidents occur during these stages.

That's why the Flight Safety Foundation has started a program to reduce this sort of accidents by half in the next 5 years.

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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 5:10 am

You started a thread about "the same boring posts in here."

What do you think this one is? Do you know how many times this question has been posted?

 
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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 9:09 am

I'm new as you can see. I haven't seen this one in here but within two months I've seen 3 or 4 "Whats your favorite Airliner."

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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 9:14 am

Approach and touch down- combined about 35% of all accidents.
 
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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 9:24 am

Lighten up VonRichtofen, it was a good question he was asking.
 
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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 9:39 am

Most accidents happen when something "gets in the way" - buldozers, scrap fallen off a DC-10, buildings, Cessna biz jets, SAM missiles.

That's rougly the statistics during the last well over a year.

Add to that one Tu-154 which was stalled on approach in Sibiria.

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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 9:41 am

Yeah really, dont make the situation worse than it is Vonny. I have been here for 2 years as of today and dont really recall seeing this question asked before.
 
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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 9:50 am

Definitely landing. Btw I don't buy that idea about crashes on take off being caused by engine failure. I can only think of a very very few crashes have happened like that. Engine failure on the runway? Midwest Express DC9 (Milwaukee), El Al 747 (Amsterdam), none others I can think of...and both of these were in the climb (the AA DC10 at O'Hare doesn't count cos the engine worked fine, even after it left the wing due to structural failure).

So many crashes on landing. You can include almost all weather related accidents, almost all Controlled Flight Into Terrain (CFIT) accidents, almost all collisions, and much "pilot error".
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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 10:47 am

We don't usually consider it part of the flight I guess, but I seem to recall hearing that the most dangerous portion was on the ground, while taxiing or accelarating/deceleration. The amount of runway incursions and near misses on the ground is frightening, and every now and then it has disasterous consequences - Examples: Tenerifa, SQ1, SK686, etc...
 
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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 10:54 am

The ramp is by far the biggest source of insurance claims because of damage to the aircraft. But pax don't usually get hurt when a catering truck dings the side of the plane. So yes, the ramp is a nightmare for the safety of the aircraft but not to pax.
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RE: What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur

Mon Oct 29, 2001 10:57 am

I would say from the time a plane takes off to the time it lands would be the most critical time frame.