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New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 2:29 am

Looks like Pan Am III may be starting new service to Baltimore (BWI) and St. Petersburg/Clearwater (PIE) in the near future - these two destinations are now in the list when you click on Reservations at www.flypanam.com. From BWI, flights (either nonstop/direct/connections) are available to Orlando SFB, Bangor, Portsmouth, or PIE. From PIE, flights are available to SFB, BWI, and Bangor. Don't know about start dates though....
Reason behind BWI may be because of the "Clipper Connection" service they're planning on starting using J31s linking Cumberland and Hagerstown in MD to BWI...
 
gsoflyer
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RE: New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 3:04 am

Interesting Choices if they come about....

I thought they would have chosen something more mid atlantic or midwestern. Esepcially with Baltirmore and Allentown not being TOO far away from each other.
 
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RE: New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 3:25 am

will they be acquiring more 727's for this service?

I wish they would start service to Newburgh New York, especially now that Midway has left there.


 
gsoflyer
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RE: New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 4:42 am

I hear that Spinkid.

I got about 500 people down here to express interest in an Allentown/Greensboro and Greensboro/Orlando route. But nothing has happened other than:
"We are excited about the interest in your area and will continue to watch it for possible growth".

Greensboro (1.8 million people) is down to 76 flights a day. That is pathetic, we need new blood in here.
 
panamair
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RE: New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 6:49 am

Actually it's now official:
To free up a/c for this service, they will stop service to Mid-America/St. Louis...also, they will start J31 service from SFB to Naples, FL before the end of the year...

Pan American Airways to Begin Service Between Bangor and Baltimore/Washington

New Flights to BWI Will Be Coordinated With Expansion
of Maryland and Florida Service

BANGOR, Maine, Nov. 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Pan American Airways today announced that it will add service from Bangor, Maine to Baltimore/Washington International Airport, beginning next month. The new flights are scheduled to start on December 6, 2001. At BWI, passengers will be able to connect to Pan Am's affiliate, Boston-Maine Airways, for service to other Maryland destinations, or to the other domestic and international airlines which serve the airport. Passengers will also be able to continue through Baltimore and on to Florida's Orlando Sanford International Airport, the airline's most popular destination, as well as St. Petersburg-Clearwater International Airport, near Tampa.
In announcing the new service, Pan Am President Dave Fink said, "At a time when news about airline travel is not always positive, we are pleased to be in
a position to offer the traveling public, and especially our growing family of loyal Pan Am customers, some good news. We expect that they will enjoy the
convenience of flying Clipper Class non-stop to BWI, and to our expanding list of destinations."
Fink added, "We especially appreciate the encouragement and continued support of Congressman John Baldacci, whose interest in the successful development of air carrier service and multi-modal transportation endeavors has been a significant factor in our decisions to expand air service at Bangor
and open our reservation center at Mattawamkeag."
Maryland Lt. Governor Kathleen Kennedy Townsend added, "We welcome Pan Am to BWI. This service will provide and important link to vital domestic markets. Given wide-spread industry cutbacks, this service is a testament to the strength of BWI and the Maryland economy.
Dan Fortnam, Pan Am's Vice President of Marketing and Sales said, "We plan to coordinate our operations in St. Petersburg-Clearwater and Orlando Sanford with those of our affiliate, Boston-Maine Airways, to offer direct connections to other Maryland and Florida destinations, starting with Cumberland and Hagarstown, MD and Naples, FL before the end of the year."
Rebecca Hupp, Interim Airport Director for Bangor International Airport said, "The City of Bangor, its City Council and members of the Congressional Delegation have worked closely with Pan Am to bring us non-stop jet service to Baltimore/Washington. The Washington, DC area is one of our top destinations.
We know that jet flights to BWI are going to be very popular with Maine and Canadian Maritime passengers seeking an affordable, comfortable and convenient
way to travel to the DC area and beyond."
Pan Am recently announced that it would begin service at its second Florida location, the St. Petersburg-Clearwater International Airport, in
order to provide service to both coasts of the Sunshine State. To provide for the additional service at Baltimore and Florida, as well as for expanded service from other cities already served by Pan Am, the airline will
discontinue service at the MidAmerica Airport, in Mascoutah, IL.
Pan Am currently provides scheduled passenger service to Boston and New England through Portsmouth, NH, Worcester, MA, Bangor, ME, Gary/Chicago, IL, Allentown, PA, Orlando/Sanford, FL and San Juan, Puerto Rico. Reservations
can be made on-line at http://www.flypanam.com, or by calling 1-800-FLYPANAM
(800-359-7262), or by contacting your travel professional.

 
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RE: New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 7:45 am

What ever happened to the Sanford-Miami-San Juan flights that were supposed to start in August? I was looking foward to seeing regularly scheduled Pan Am flights back at thier old home.
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spinkid
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RE: New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 7:55 am

They certainly get my vote for strangest airline going. They serve the weirdest cities with the weirdest routing, and have also changed their routes several times in their short history.

Even the website is slightly off kilter.

All the same, I kind of like them and hope I get the chance to fly them some day.
 
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RE: New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 8:03 am

They certainly get my vote for strangest airline going. .

I completely agree. They've obviously carved out quite the niche for themselves, but boy, who woulda thunkit? Strange indeed...
 
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RE: New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 11:08 am

It would be REAL COOL to see a B 777-200ER, or even a B 747-400 in Panam 3's livery........  Smokin cool  Smokin cool  Smokin cool
 
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RE: New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 2:29 pm

How about an A330 or an A340? Had they survived,you just may have.Although the idea of seeing the Big Blue Ball on the tail of a 777 is fascinating.
Yes, I actually *do* work for an airline,how about you?
 
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RE: New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 2:50 pm

The B 747-400 will look cool with the Biu Blue Ball on it........ Hope Panam 3 can go International some day!
 
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RE: New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 2:54 pm

Stop service to Mid America completely or just one destination from Mid America?
 
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RE: New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 2:56 pm

I also agree that seeing Pan Am be succesful again would be great. But I think them becoming a major airline is still a ways off. I like the strategy that they are doing though. They are probobly just playing around with routes and seeing which ones are any good. If St. Louis was losing money then there was no point in keeping it open. Someday hopefully Pan Am can become a normal sign at ORD.
 
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RE: New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 3:23 pm

Hate to be the party pooper, but starting and stopping service like you were some half-assed fall color tour bus line is a sure sign of bad management...

That said, PAIII seems to have a certain resilience to it. I personally like their idea of serving small to large, but rather that A340s or Triple Sevens, the meatball SHOULD be flying on RJs and ERJs.

Hey B757....PAIII to TVC? Hmmmn?
 
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RE: New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 3:32 pm

Hello, I work at MidAmerica and we all saw it coming. When only 7 people get on a 727-200 that only has 35 people on it, something is going to have to change. I am completely out of the dark right now about this. One thing was strange. On Monday, Pan Am cancelled their friday flight. I am sure they had something planned. we just didn't know that they, our only carrier, would pull out. I guess we will have to wait and see.
 
panamair
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RE: New Pan Am III Destinations?

Fri Nov 02, 2001 4:48 pm

The way they're dabbling with different routes and destinations probably doesn't hurt them as much probably because they aren't really focusing on the business traveller anyway (who would rely on consistency and frequency). Also, I think they're getting lots of financial breaks from underutilized airports and state governments eager to introduce new air service (e.g., the service to Cumberland and Hagerstown in MD by their Boston-Maine Airways sub is being partially supported by the state or those towns). I know that airports like SFB and BGR are probably very grateful that they now have more domestic jet service thanks to Pan Am...