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Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Tue Nov 06, 2001 8:18 am

51 years of flying the flag of Argentina throughout the world.


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"Solo vos sabes lo que significa para un Argentino volver a despegar."

"Only you know what it means for an Argentinean to return to the skies - Aerolineas Argentinas"

Hopefuly with better times ahead.

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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Tue Nov 06, 2001 8:26 am

I was pleased to read that they're back--flying Buenos Aires-Madrid, right? I hope that they and the Argentine economy will find the road to recovery.
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Tue Nov 06, 2001 11:02 am

And on thursay we are flying back to san pablo and rio de janerio.
these song is dedicated to Aerolineas Argentinas and Austral
Camperones de la vida por Alejandro Lerner

aunque las pueras se cierren
aunque no me sienta bien
aunque el tiempo pege fuerte
se que voy a estar de pie

yerba buena nunca muere
no se cansa de pelear
aunque llueva, nieve o truene
te tenes que levantar

aunque no haya navidades
a la hora de la fe
cuando la campana suene
se que voy a estar de pie

que no nos falte el trabajo
ni las ganas de soñar
que el sueño traiga trabajo
y el trabajo, dignidad

el futuro que no viene
el pasado que se fue
lo que queda es el presente
para poder estar bien
 
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Tue Nov 06, 2001 12:05 pm

Aerolineas has resumed flights to Madrid.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Sao Paulo, Rio de Janiero, Auckland, and Syndey are net on line. Miami will follow shortly after. Los Angeles and JFK will be coming back too.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Tue Nov 06, 2001 1:01 pm

Please AR resume your former glory of being THE pioneer airline in Latin America.
 
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Which Planes Have They Ordered For The Future

Tue Nov 06, 2001 5:34 pm

What kind of Airbusses and/or Boeings has Aerolineas ordered?
 
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RE: Which Planes Have They Ordered For The Future

Tue Nov 06, 2001 11:00 pm

As far as I know they still have 6 A340-600 on order. No short-haul planes. Maybe the new, large RJs are an option to replace the DC-9s and B737-200s?

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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Tue Nov 06, 2001 11:14 pm

According to justplanes.com they are also planning a service to Tel Aviv.
Does anyone know more about this? Will this be a nonstop-service?
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Tue Nov 06, 2001 11:51 pm

Its great to see that Aerolineas is on its way back to recovery.
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Wed Nov 07, 2001 12:11 am

Great add that one of only an Argentinian Knows how iit feels to be back ikn the air. Great to see such a great airline back in the air and hopefully iit will do better than ever. Buena Suerte Aerolineas.
Chepos
Fly the Flag!!!!
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Wed Nov 07, 2001 6:54 am

I know the airline was talking about Tel Aviv but plans are not concrete. They are also talking about South Africa, somewhere in Asia, and Cuba. Can Tel Aviv be made non-stop from Buenos Aires??? It seems like a long ways away. I would think that they would stop in Madrid. Anyways do you think that there is a market share to fly this route from Argentina? I know there is a large Jewish population in Argentina but I don't think it would be wise to fly this route (esp. now with the current situation, just my 2 cents though).
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Wed Nov 07, 2001 6:57 am

The best to our Flagship airline!!!!!We want to see Aerolineas again in every important airport in the world.
Argento,Buenos Aires.
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Wed Nov 07, 2001 7:12 am

Nice to see they're back-but they have lots of work to do before they regain the trust of Argentines like me, who only use BA to fly to EZE now.

They should concentrate on flying where the money is; I think it is great to have an Argentine presence in South Africa, Asia etc. but will it really be profitable?, or are they just trying to look good?

They also really have to work hard on the customer service side-that means polite & helpful staff, which make a big impression on the passenger; so far, I haven't seen this @ AR-maybe they should see how the European airline staff @ EZE do it.

BTW, is it just me, or was the commercial meant to depict an A340 taking-off @ aeroparque Jorge Newbury!!!!

Buena Suerte Aerolineas! Ojala vuelvas a Londres!

Regards

 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Wed Nov 07, 2001 8:34 am

i was just about to sya that! The picture does look allot like an A340 taking off from aeroparque! that is a great airport! love flying in with buildings above the airplane, but it could never be done in an A340. could it?
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Wed Nov 07, 2001 3:24 pm

I doubt that the A340 is taking off from AEP. The runway is way too small, it would be great to land on a widebody in that wonderful little airport
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Wed Nov 07, 2001 4:25 pm

I'm positive that's aeroparque jorge newbery in the picture, the airbus has just been pasted on it  Smile Although they have squeezed a 707 into there before!

Capt Picard, I agree with you when you mention the new routes they're considering. I think it's better to concentrate on the profitable ones and make an effort to improve their service rather than serve exotic destinations that might not even be profitable.

I also hope they come up with a nicer livery! I was pretty much appaled when the current livery replaced the older one, it's too plain.

Best of luck to AR!
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Thu Nov 08, 2001 3:37 am

Capetown looks good if the airline recuperates. There are over 50,000 people in 2000 flying Argentina-South Africa. Malaysia will drop the route in Feb.

 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Thu Nov 08, 2001 5:35 am

AeroArgentina, yes, EZE-TLV can be made non-stop. Despite the current situation in Israel, there is still a surprisingly decent amount of demand to Israel, but it is mostly form the US, and mostly everyone who goes to Israel flies El Al. Buenos Aires' Jewish population is one of the ten largest in the world, and, right now, the easiest way for them to get to Israel is by connecting with El Al in Miami or JFK, Iberia in Madrid, or Alitalia in Milan, all of which are pretty out of the way.
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Thu Nov 08, 2001 8:58 am

Then perhaps EZE-CPT/JNB-TLV.

Just remember what happened the last time there was a new route opened from TelAviv-Buenos Aires......
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Thu Nov 08, 2001 9:42 am

I have to express my doubts about this Tel Aviv service everyone is dreaming of.

I just can't see the point; sure, there are plenty of Jews in Argentina, but does this automatically make the route viable?

What will really matter is premium pax & cargo potential.
A couple of Jewish families wanting to fly to Israel is not what Aerolineas (or any airline) needs; it needs *business*-in the form of cargo, or people wanting to fly in First or Business class.

I also have my doubts about South Africa. This strikes me as being totally a leisure route, with few businessmen wanting to use such a service (especially with the terrible state of Argentina's economy).

I flew with Malaysian on this route twice, on the 744 (non-combi)-on both occasions, First Class had the grand total of ONE pax, and NO pax in Business. Unless they were flying tonnes of lucrative cargo, Malaysian would have caertainly been losing money on this route.

Guys, let's be realistic here.

Aerolineas has much more urgent priorities than flying mickey-mouse routes.

It needs to restructure, lay-off the huge number of staff which are costing it money, and focus on flying to places which will really bring in the profit.

Don't want to sound harsh, but I personally feel that Aerolineas will just shoot itself in the foot again if it tries to expand like crazy without solving some serious problems at home first.

Regards
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Thu Nov 08, 2001 9:50 am

Hi:

Great to see such a great airline of South America and of the world return to the skies. Good luck Aerolineas Argentinas!

Latinplane: excellent photos of Aerolineas.

Best regards,
RJ_Delta.

 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Thu Nov 08, 2001 11:02 am

allso in aeroparque can land a B757, the presidental plane is parked there
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Thu Nov 08, 2001 1:58 pm

Nice to see some good news in our world of aviation  Smile

Cheers,

Justin
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Sat Nov 10, 2001 12:36 am

Tel Aviv plans are not really new. Back in 1979/80 it was evaluated as an extension from Rome. The route could be flown with A340 to Rome nonstop and then TLV. Wheter if it would be profitable or not, that is the main issue.

I had seen twice the A310 at Aeroparque and years before the 707 too. When the Pope visited in 1986 it arrived with a Lan Chile 767. But the A340 ad is certainly pasted.
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Sat Nov 10, 2001 6:53 am

LV-ARG
I'm pretty sure the presidential plane is an Airbus 320 of some sort. I could be wrong though.
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas - The Flag Of Argentina

Sat Nov 10, 2001 12:18 pm

No, the presidential Airplane is a 757.. When Lapa got his 767 ER they did the inauguration party at Aeroparque so they landed the aircraft there.. but i guess that it was kinda empty.. i dont know if you can land a 340 nearly fuel less and empty.. but that picture is a cut and paste from other.. but it looks good
Alto.. Mucho mas alto.. hasta la cumbre
 
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Are They Still Tied To OneWorld?

Sat Nov 10, 2001 2:22 pm

If they are not still part-owned by American, perhaps they could end up in partnership with Continental, which would give them access to Newark and Houston. Hopefully their financial position is a bit more stable.