gibberish
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Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?

Tue Nov 06, 2001 10:44 pm

Why is it that most low-fare, no-frills airlines operate an all 737 fleet? Southwest, Ryanair and EasyJet all do. Is it an aircraft which gets maintained for less money or what?

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RE: Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?

Tue Nov 06, 2001 10:48 pm

Rugged, bulletproof design. Interesting that the A320 has not had similar success in this segment. The A320 is supposed to be slightly more fuel-efficient than the 733, but I wonder if that is not offset by higher maintainance requirements?

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RE: Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?

Tue Nov 06, 2001 10:52 pm

JetBlue operates A320s.

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RE: Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?

Tue Nov 06, 2001 11:03 pm

Another major factor is the availability of 737s on the used aircraft market. There are many old 737-300s for sale from airlines upgrading to the NGs, and those are far cheaper than having to go to Airbus for a brand new A320. That may change now that Swissair and Sabena (both large AB customers) are dead and their fleets likely to hit the market.
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RE: Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?

Tue Nov 06, 2001 11:03 pm

How many planes do they have?
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RE: Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?

Tue Nov 06, 2001 11:25 pm

Swissair had almost 50 A320-class aircraft, all very well maintained. Sabena had another 20 or so.

But does anyone know if the A320 is more maintainance-intensive?

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RE: Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?

Wed Nov 07, 2001 3:14 pm

SWA was flying before Airbus' were manufactured.

SWA had the choice between the 737 or DC-9 (basically).

EasyJet and Go were based of the "success" of SWA's philosophy, modified for their respective markets.

SWA was started with brand new planes back in 197x.
 
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RE: Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?

Wed Nov 07, 2001 6:53 pm

Pengiunflies: EasyJet didn't choose the 737 over the A320 because of efficiency or MX costs, they chose it because that's what they could get for the money. Remember that EZY started with a lone 732 a rich Greek bought with money his Dad gave him.

Go on the other hand, was trying to copy off of EZY, so they too invested in 737s.
 
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RE: Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?

Wed Nov 07, 2001 7:12 pm

Interestingly, the aircraft with the best economics is actually the B757 but it's just a bit too big for the low cost market.

And Lowfareair, EZY used 737s which were leased from IAG using GB Airways' AOC because they were following Southwest's business plan. And they started with two aircraft, not one! Big grin Big grin

Ryanair was also copying Southwest, so they too used 732s initially - acquired from Britannia, as I recall. Prior to that, they had used BAC1-11s.
 
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RE: Ceilidh

Wed Nov 07, 2001 8:13 pm

Ryanair also used ATR42s and Bae 748s if my mind serves me right  Big thumbs up
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RE: Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?

Wed Nov 07, 2001 10:21 pm

Ceilidh: OK, it might have been two, I don't remember; BUT they were much cheaper to acquire than A320s which is what I was trying to say.
 
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RE: Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?

Wed Nov 07, 2001 10:27 pm

Ryanair also (briefly) used A320s!
 
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RE: Ceilidh

Thu Nov 08, 2001 8:19 am

fwiw, WN tried out 727s also, for just a bit anyway, not just DC-9s and 732s. There was a pic in Airliners back a year ago or so.

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RE: Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?

Thu Nov 08, 2001 9:02 am

If we look at other low fare airlines, for instance the European charter airlines, then you see everything ranging from 25 years old A300s to brand new A320 and A330. And in between aged A320s and loads of A310s. Alongside B737s/757s of all ages including 737NG.

So I don't think that any such conclusions can be made. It's just coincidental - and of course helped by the fact that 737 is the most common airliner type, and it has been around for so many years.

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RE: Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?

Thu Nov 08, 2001 9:13 am

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RE: Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?

Thu Nov 08, 2001 9:39 am

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RE: Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?

Thu Nov 08, 2001 10:42 am



The new Frontier started out as an all-737 operator and is switching to all-Airbus