Chi-town
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Southwest Question

Wed Nov 07, 2001 10:11 am

I was thinking. Why doesn't Southwest fly any other aircraft besides the 737 series? I was just wondering. Can anyone answer this? Why doesn't Southwest fly to JFK or LGA or MIN or DEN?? Can anyone answer these questions. Thanks

-Steve (ORD)
 
n521na
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RE: Southwest Question

Wed Nov 07, 2001 10:13 am

They operate only 737s to keep maintennance and training costs down.

They do not go to JFK, LGA, MIN or DEN because they are all congested and would hurt their on-time record.
 
bombayhog
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RE: Southwest Question

Wed Nov 07, 2001 10:13 am

Lower operating costs through that magic word.....Simplicity.

/gwl
 
n521na
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RE: Southwest Question

Wed Nov 07, 2001 10:15 am

Actually JFK is not congested like i said in my previous post so I do not know why they don't go there.
 
flyCMH
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RE: Southwest Question

Wed Nov 07, 2001 10:24 am

Probably the biggest reason Southwest does neither of the things you metioned (fly aircraft other than the 737 and serve larger international airports) is to cut costs and pass the savings on to their customers with low fares.

Keeping a single aircraft type in their fleet drives down the cost of maintenance and training. Pilots don't need to be trained to fly multiple aircraft types, and spare parts and maintenance training are only needed for one type of aircraft, thus lessening the cost.

Southwest tends to avoid large hubs for serveral reasons. Landing fees are much higher and gate space is usually at a premium at some larger airports than at smaller surrounding airports. Congestion and airline dominance at fortress hubs is another reason Southwest doesn't bother with airports like JFK or DEN. Instead, they fly to airports that are about an hour or two away from large metropolitan areas (i.e. Islip for New York City, Manchester and Providence for Boston, and Birmingham for Atlanta).
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Notar520AC
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RE: Southwest Question

Wed Nov 07, 2001 1:44 pm

I contacted their CEO and the whole plan is SIMPLICITY.
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OPNLguy
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RE: Southwest Question

Wed Nov 07, 2001 1:51 pm

>>>Actually JFK is not congested like i said in my previous post so I do not know why they don't go there.

Not congested (as some), but it's still a slot-controlled airport...so no scheduling flexability for new service (unless you get a massive exemption like JB)....
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dash8tech
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RE: Southwest Question

Wed Nov 07, 2001 3:51 pm

There is much parts commonality with one fleet type, even with a couple different variations...maintenance is probably the largest cost of running an airline.

That there is a smart airline...

Cheers!
 
thomasphoto60
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RE: Southwest Question

Wed Nov 07, 2001 4:12 pm

What everyone has said is accurate!

Flying into a JFK or LGA ect, would have an adverse effect on WN's bottom line. And for an airline that prides itself on the famous '10 minute turn'(20 minutes @ LAX) this would not be possible on a regular basis at any of the airports that you mentioned. I just mentioned LAX, now that Steve has mentioned these big airports, I have always wondered why WN flies into LAX, when it seems to go out of its way to avoid the majors, perhaps someone can answer this. The only other major that I know that WN serves where there is a competing airport that WN flies into is IAH. Of course WN has a huge operation at HOU some 30 miles to the south of IAH.

WN use to fly to DEN up until the mid 80s, one of the reasons I was told (among others) that they pulled out was due to delays, in particular weather delays.

In any case Southwest's formula works very well and hopefully no one will tamper with this 31 year success story......"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

Thomas
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Ooops!

Wed Nov 07, 2001 4:14 pm

I made Southwest 1 year older that it actually is! 30 years, not 31!...my bad!

Thomas
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