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More AA Int'l Cancellations

Sat Nov 10, 2001 6:05 am

American Will Discontinue Its Seattle-Tokyo and DFW-Osaka Services, Effective Jan. 8, 2002

FORT WORTH, Texas, Nov. 9 /PRNewswire/ -- American Airlines announced today that effective Jan. 8, 2002, it will discontinue its nonstop services between Seattle and Tokyo, and between Dallas/Fort Worth and Osaka, Japan.

American will continue to operate nonstop service to Tokyo from its hubs at Dallas/Fort Worth and Chicago, and from its focus-city flight center at San Jose, Calif.

``Weak economic conditions and the devastating effects of the Sept. 11 attacks have hurt demand between the U.S. and Japan and make it impractical to continue the Seattle-Tokyo and DFW-Osaka routes,'' said Henry Joyner, American's senior vice president of planning. ``We deeply regret this decision, especially since we just recently observed the 10th anniversary of the Seattle-Tokyo service. But the harsh economic realities of the marketplace leave us with no alternative.''

American began flying the Seattle-Tokyo route on Oct. 1, 1991, and has served DFW-Osaka since 1998. The airline operates the Seattle-Tokyo service six days a week, and flies the DFW-Osaka route four days a week. American serves both routes with Boeing 777s.

Despite the cancellations, American remains one of the nation's largest international carriers, serving eight destinations in six countries in Europe and 32 destinations in 18 countries in Central and South America and Mexico. American and its regional affiliate, American Eagle, also serve a total of 35 destinations in the Caribbean, the Bahamas and Bermuda.

At DFW and Chicago, its two largest hubs, American offers an extensive array of international services, flying daily to 22 international cities from DFW and 14 international cities from Chicago. Miami is American's major hub for services to Latin America.

As part of the changes announced today, American also said it will discontinue its Miami-Seattle nonstop flight, effective Jan. 8.

``More Room For More Coach Passengers ... Only on American''

Current AMR Corp. (NYSE: AMR - news) news releases can be accessed via the Internet. The address is http://www.amrcorp.com .

SOURCE: American Airlines

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ScottB
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RE: More AA Int'l Cancellations

Sat Nov 10, 2001 6:10 am

Well, if you look at AA's Pacific load factors in October, this isn't at all surprising. Their trans-Pacific flights were about 45% full on average. Not the sort of losses that AMR can afford right now.
 
MAH4546
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RE: More AA Int'l Cancellations

Sat Nov 10, 2001 6:49 am

Sad to see the Miami-Seattle-Tokyo route go. Not surprised MIA-SEA leaves with SEA-NRT, since about 60% of MIA-SEA passengers continued on to NRT (same flight). The only good in this is that MAYBE the flight can return non-stop from Miami, but that is only me hoping, and unlikely for a while.
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brian_ga
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RE: More AA Int'l Cancellations

Sat Nov 10, 2001 7:00 am

Sad but I can understand why. Hope they will reconsider the cuts once traffic starts to pick up again.
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sfointern
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RE: More AA Int'l Cancellations

Sat Nov 10, 2001 7:01 am

WOW. Wasn't SEA-NRT AA's first Japan route? Sadness...

Wouldn't be surprised to see SEA-BOS follow in axing order.
 
MAH4546
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RE: More AA Int'l Cancellations

Sat Nov 10, 2001 7:05 am

I hope they at least bring back MIA-SEA. Seattle is now the largest US city MIA does not (will not) have service to. AA is starting a new one-stop MIA-SEA flight with a 752 via ORD, but still, MIA-SEA can fill a daily 752. Even AC flies MIA-YVR (daily in summer, weekends in winter). Unfortunatley, I think SFOInterim is right. BOS-SEA may get the axe too, since it also feeds the SEA flight (remember when AA was to start non-stop BOS-NRT in '99?), though BOS is a larger market than MIA.
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RE: More AA Int'l Cancellations

Sat Nov 10, 2001 8:11 am

Why didn't AA consider downgrading the SEA-NRT to a 763 from a 772?

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RE: More AA Int'l Cancellations

Sat Nov 10, 2001 8:18 am

I rally think AA's pac routes we're close to the chopping block for quite sometime. the economy wasn't well and NWA and even UA are way cheaper than AA. It's hard to find a good deal on AA unless if you have a great travel agent.
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Mason
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RE: More AA Int'l Cancellations

Sat Nov 10, 2001 8:41 am

This really sucks! AA used to operate it with an MD-11, then upgraded to a 777, and was one of the first routes to recieve 777 service from AA. Well, mabye NW will re-start its SEA-KIX (Osaka) flights soon, with an A330 as they come on line. I think and have thought for some time that SEA is the most underserved airport in the US in terms of international service, and it's getting worse, as can be seen here. I agree than a 763 would work for awihle. I can't wait for JAL to see a golden opportunity, and jump right into the SEA market!
 
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RE: More AA Int'l Cancellations

Sat Nov 10, 2001 9:43 am

Lets see here:

SJC-TPE gone
DFW-KIX gone
SEA-NRT gone
1 DFW-LGW cut
RDU-LGW downgraded to 763
1 ORD-LHR cut

Doesn't this mean that AA has a massive surplus of 777's now? Where are they? So far, they haven't been reassigned to domestic service. Last I knew that 2 were parked at AFW, and what about the last 10 that were supposed to be delivered through next year?

Btw, 3 of the 5 762's that were parked have returned to service.
 
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RE: More AA Int'l Cancellations

Sat Nov 10, 2001 10:02 am

PSU, one of them has been re-assigned to one of MIA-LAX flights. MIA-LAX was supposed to be a 772 only for August and September, but still is and will be for a while. I don't know what is happening, but I believe this leaves AA with SIX pacific 777s sitting around doing nothing. AA also suspended the 777 MIA-GRU flight, but that goes back online December 16th. Plus, JFK-EZE is now a 763ER instead of a 772. I think you may see 772s go to routes that still are doing well. MIA-MAD is an example. Adding those to your lists, that is 13 parked 777s (since GRU/TPE/EZE/KIX/NRT use two 772s each). Two of them go back on 16 December when second daily MIA-GRU resumes, but how about the rest? Maybe they can deploy them on some trans-cons. JFK-LAX, BOS-LAX, MIA-SFO, and JFK-SFO. UA is deploying thier surplus 744s on many hub routes. Another choice is putting them on Latin routes. AA's Latin American operations are thier strong point and thier biggest money maker, aside from thier LHR flights. Put them on MIA-GIG and MIA-SCL (which is not going double-daily this winter timetable like it was supposed to, so the extra 772 seats would be good). The extra money they can get out from using those Flagship Suites to Santiago would be good for them (every penny counts, and AA's long-haul MIA Latin routes are still doing accepetable in the premium cabins). I'm hoping AA keeps thier slot (if they can. I doubt it) and starts either MIA or BOS-NRT flights when the market is right again (JFK-NRT would make sense too, but I think that market is already overcrowded). I don't think we will see SEA-NRT again, but I do think MIA-SEA will come back.
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RE: More AA Int'l Cancellations

Sat Nov 10, 2001 11:09 am

I flew the BOS-SEA-NRT route with a connection on a JAL codeshare flight to BKK, a couple summers ago, and it was the cheapest ticket I have ever gotten to BKK from BOS. Around $750 RT and that was during the peak season. It would be nice if they started a nonstop BOS-NRT flight. Its a pain having to connect in the west coast or midwest when flying to Asia from BOS. Whenever I go to Asia, it seems like a majority of the people on the flight from BOS to wherever I'm getting a connecting flight to Asia from also connect to Asia. So it would seem like there is a market to support the flight.

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