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Dash 7

Sun Nov 11, 2001 6:15 pm

Yea, I was just looking to hear from anyone about statistics on the Dash-7 and also if anyone has any experiences with the aircraft it would be nice to hear about them. Thanks a lot
 
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RE: Dash 7

Sun Nov 11, 2001 6:27 pm

Engine:4 P&WC PT-6A-50
Speed:436km/h
Reach:1279km
PAX:50
Heavy:20000kg
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RE: Dash 7

Sun Nov 11, 2001 6:32 pm

Thanks a lot royal!
 
El Al 001
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RE: Dash 7

Sun Nov 11, 2001 9:30 pm

I had lots of flights in the DHC-7, all of them were operated by Arkia Israeli Airlines.

I flew with them:
SDV-ETH
ETH-SDV
ETH-TLV
TLV-RPN-KSW (only 6 min' between RPN & KSW!!!)
KSW-RPN-TLV (only 6 min' between RPN & KSW!!!)

All these routes are domestic lines inside Israel.

Arkia used to fly 12 of them, today IIRC they operate only 6 side by side with ATR72s, most of them are in the new Arkia c/s and they in good shape also from the inside.
Last June when I flew with Arkia from ETH to SDV on an ATR I spoke to the pilot and we compared the DH7 with the AT7, all in all, he said that those DH7s are more helicopters than a/cs...:D (all they need is 600 metters and they are airborned!!!)
The DH7 is known for it's reliablity, at Arkia they claim that it is the best a/c they have for bad weather, but soon enough they will all be gone....

Michael
 
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RE: Dash 7

Sun Nov 11, 2001 11:08 pm

I know someone who spent some time flying Dash-7s. He said that, even when heavy, he would typically land and get it stopped in about 500 feet...without a significant headwind. Bear in mind, this is a ~50,000 pound airliner we're talking about.
The Dash-7 was ideal for flying into and out of London City, where the glideslope was well over 3 degrees (I think about 7 or so) and led to a 3000-4000 foot runway.
 
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RE: Dash 7

Mon Nov 12, 2001 12:27 am

El Al 001: I flew on an Arkia Dash 7 from Jerusalem (Atarot) to ETH a few years ago. Is Arkia still flying out of Atarot? I didn't look like it when I checked their webpage.
 
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RE: Dash 7

Mon Nov 12, 2001 12:43 am

once flew a Dash 7 of Paradise Island air from FLL to Paradise Island on the Bahamas.
don´t know if the airline still exists, though, purchased by the current Pan Am??? something comes to my mind...

rgds
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RE: Dash 7

Mon Nov 12, 2001 12:48 am

I haven't flown on one personally but both airlines that flew Dash 7's got rid of theres pretty quickly.

Talking with some of the Mechanics that worked on the aircraft, I have the impression that it was universally hated.

Lots of electrics that don't work right.

One person called it, "The worst Boeing ever." At the time they where building them DHC was owned by Boeing.
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RE: Dash 7

Mon Nov 12, 2001 2:49 am

The Dash 7 is the only commuter aircraft I've ever felt safe in. The four engines and powerful but short takeoff roll are very impressive. I've been on quite a few, and was sorry to see them replaced with Dash 8s and J-41s.

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RE: Dash 7

Mon Nov 12, 2001 4:07 am

Many of the Dash-7's were bought by the US military for reconnaisance roles, and designated the RC-7. Prior to that, I have seen them around ATL flying for ASA, but that must have been 10-15 years ago.

Cheers,
Pete
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lymanm
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RE: Dash 7

Mon Nov 12, 2001 7:09 am

I used to work at the Canada Aviation Museum in Ottawa, where the Dash-7 prototype is currently on display (if you consider sitting out and rotting away on the tarma "on display"). It's sad to see the plane so neglected. Nonetheless, it's a fascinating plane!

What did it in was it's slow cruise, limited range and the fact that the Dash-8-300 has similar performance/pax seating with MUCH less fuel burn.

Check out the museum's blurb about the Dash-7:

http://www.aviation.nmstc.ca/Eng/Collection/sd051e.htm
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El Al 001
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RE: Dash 7

Sun Nov 18, 2001 12:43 am

Cap'n Dan,
No, Arkia does not operate from JRS anymore, there was never too much of demand, and a great number of the flights between JRS and ETH were coming from or leaving to SDV.
Anyway, the service via JRS was not efficient at all and therefore was ceased.

Michael.
 
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RE: Dash 7

Sun Nov 18, 2001 3:57 am

I flew once with it when it was still in Adria but they have replaced them with CRJ's.It was a short take-off distance and the 4 props are making this aircraft looking very "heavy".
 
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RE: Dash 7

Sun Nov 18, 2001 6:01 am


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I used to work at Southend Airport near London in the early-mid 1980s when Maersk Air used to operate them from and to Billund, Denmark. (they used to market it as Billund-London (Southend)

A very impressive aircraft to watch, and very smart inside from what I can remember.
 
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RE: Dash 7

Sun Nov 18, 2001 6:09 am

I believe that Air Wisconsin was the first US operator of the Dash 7. Hawaiian Airlines also operated them.

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