Mik
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New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 12:05 am

hi all

anybody has an idea for a new name old/new swissair/crossair?

my suggestion is:


AirSwiss (with cheese)

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RJ100
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 12:22 am

Hello

They should use Swissair on long-haul flights and Crossair on the European network. Very simple.

Kind regards,
RJ100
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gerardo
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 12:23 am

It will be Crossair.

I don't think, they will use Swissair for legal reasons.

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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 12:29 am

"Swiss Air Lines" was a rumour in the early stages.

Daniel Smile
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 12:55 am

In my opinion, I don't feel it would be a good idea for the "new" Swiss carrier to carry the name Swissair on its aircraft. Don't forget, this carrier left tens of thousands of pax stranded worldwide, and their tickets, and the tickets of thousands of future travellers were rendered null and void. From a marketing perspective, the name Swissair will incur much mistrust and anger, especially on those pax affected by the shutdown
of SR. Not to mention the anger and grief inflicted on travel agents worldwide. Perhaps it should be said that
the argument would be that educated, informed peopl,e would KNOW the name Swissair, should it be adopted, is a name only, but never underestimate the mood and feelings of the travelling public.

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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 1:54 am

Gerardo already said it...Crossair will be the new name.
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 2:06 am

why don't they try Royal Swiss airways?

or also Alps Aerotransport
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 6:32 am

Why royal? Switzerland isn't a kingdom so there's no royalty. Forget that one.

In my eyes Swissair is the best but because of obvious reasons, the name's got to go. Crossair I don't like, I've hated it ever since hearing it. It's got a good reputation in Europe but overseas, Crossair is known as a low-cost carrier which had a crash in 1999. So that's gotta change.

My favorite is: Swiss World Airways  Smile and then Swiss Air Lines or Swiss Airways. The first one would be cool but I have no clue about the legal issues.

Great topic, keep 'em coming!

gibberish
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 6:38 am

LOVE the name Swiss World Airways. Very Classy.
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 6:55 am

Sorry, Swiss World has already been done. The airline operated briefly a few years ago and then folded.



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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 7:09 am

How about SWISSCROSS AIRLINES? They must retain SWISS in it since Crossair has no brand identity outside Europe.
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 7:11 am

I like Swiss Air Lines
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 8:25 am

they should keep Swissair.
it´s highly recognized all around the globe and stands for quality and excellence.
this great image was overshadowed in the last few months, but i´m sure if Swissair will keep flying that in a few years to come the events of this october won´t be remember for long.

rgds
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:39 am

Of course I am aware that a Swiss World Airways has existed, that's where I got the name from. I think it's a good name. I also mentioned that I don't have a clue about the legal issues concerning the rights of the name Swiss World Airways.
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 3:07 am

In my opinion, it will be Crossair for european flights and Swissair for long-haul flights.
Anyway, nobody knows what will be the future of the new company. Swissair FA doesnt really like Crossair FA because they think Crossair is also responsible for Swissair problems.
The new company will have to join a global alliance and forget Qualyflyer.

 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 3:48 am

Alpin'Air?? but Zurich isn't in the Alps!
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 7:24 am

I have never flown SwissAir but they always had a quality reputation.

Other airlines survived bankruptcies and kept their names.

Continental
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 7:31 am

My money is on SwissAir, at least for long-haul. It has world-wide recognition as a top-quality airline. Crossair would require a huge marketing expense, especially in the important US market.
a.
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 8:34 am

CHair!

 Big thumbs up
 
dens
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 9:40 am

Why not Villig'Air?
Kaspar Villiger is the Swiss Finance minister and he decided (with his government) to give 2 billions Swiss francs to save Swissair/Crossair!
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 9:44 am

well..I like a new name of "sweetair"!
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 3:55 am

Bruggiss'Air .....  Pissed
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 4:03 am

Swissidair
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 4:03 am


Swiss World is a great name. Too bad they are gone.
 
Mik
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 23, 2001 7:08 pm

thanks folks for all those good ideas and thoughts.

its fun to be a part of airliners.net

stay tuned and peace

mik
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 23, 2001 7:35 pm

A330dat,

LOL !
 Smile/happy/getting dizzy

(of course you have to speak French to grasp it...)
 
gerardo
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 23, 2001 9:07 pm

Some Belgians trying to start anything here?

OK, what about a new name for SN's successor, for example "Conair"?

A330dat and Slz396, you have to read that in French too.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Gerardo
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slz396
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 23, 2001 9:26 pm

Funny, but still not as appropriate as Swissidair....
Besides, Conair already exists in Scandinavia! I know the Swiss have a uncontolable impulse of stealing the best things out of other countries, but we in Belgium don't.  Wink/being sarcastic

Now that we are talking of banking anyway, how about Swindlair as new name for Swissair/crossair? They could even go as far as calling their time table Swindler's list, which should ring a bell with al the jews who lost an awfull lot of their money after the second worldwar thanks to the unfair swiss banks...

Oh, I've heard Sabena might become Europair after all.
I wonder what geographical feature the Swiss will go for then......surroundair or....... surrendair?

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Gerardo

Fri Nov 23, 2001 9:34 pm


the Swiss get what they diserve !!!!

Don't worry not only in Belgium : your 'name' is made all over Europe and even Worldwide !!

Not even only in Airlines, wish Roche good luck from my part ( I used to work for them 96 - 98 ), the fine they got is only a start ( they don't only have 'deals' in the vitamin business but in ALL divions were they are active ) More even : that is the strong point of Roche ! Now that this is penatilized they will face more problems in the future !!

No the end is not in sight for the Swiss, it is indeed a good thing that Switzerland is not part of the EU, ... only that is for the EU and not for Switzerland !!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
slz396
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 23, 2001 10:08 pm

Yes, I can confirm the Swiss have really lost their image of trustworthy banking nation completely...

It's not only in Belgium and Luxembourg (Sabena) you know, but also in 4 large (future) EU memberstates:
France (AOM/AirLIb),
Germany (LTU),
Poland (LOT),
Italy (Volare).
Austria quickly understood what their neighbours were really all about, so Austrian left the Qualiflyer alliance on time but still...

Add South Africa (SAA/SAL) to the list too and you immediately understand these things tend to get spotted in Japan and the USA too....


 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 23, 2001 10:43 pm

I like Swissair. Swiss-blah is good-sounding name.
 
gerardo
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 23, 2001 11:26 pm

Hey, eggheads: jealous about what other countries achieve?

In this topic you are bashing Switzerland, in other topics the Dutch, and so on. Show what you can and what you have, then let's talk again.

Until then, byebye

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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 23, 2001 11:31 pm

SwitzerlandAir or AirSwitzerland

I hope Swissair can stay alive forever!!!  Smile

Big777jet

 
gerardo
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 23, 2001 11:37 pm

Older than you, for sure. Starting to bash others isn't really a sign of maturity. And now, before you reply, read again all this thread.

BTW: If you only know your chocolate, then good night, and if you think, it is better, well, this says everything  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

BTW, how old are you? Or better, how old do you think you are?

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slz396
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 23, 2001 11:43 pm

Gerardo,

Yes, good night...
If you have to go to bed now, then you really are 6 years...

Anyway, to find out how old I am, you can try to click on the user profile button....
Computers are really amazing, aren't they? Wink/being sarcastic

-------

Keep the suggestions going guys!

As to their new logo, that shouldn't be to much of a problem; all they have to do is to paint the top and bottom of their white cross over in red so as to have a big minus sign on a red tail...
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Fri Nov 23, 2001 11:59 pm

Why is the swiss you are bashing??

Its a frickin airline and not a country. A coincidence that they share the name.

Tom
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 24, 2001 12:04 am

lemme re-phrase that:

Why is it the swiss you are bashing??

Its a frickin airline and not a country. A coincidence that they share the name.

Tom
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 24, 2001 12:41 am


Hi!

I have two opinions, one the serious one and the other more a funny aproach. Let's see, we all know that the airline from Switzerland is Swissair so this should keep that way, perhaps a new "make up" to them would help, but always taking in mind the swiss flag in the tail.
Now a more funny one I think we should find a name that when you say it we will remember Switzerland like:

SWATCHAIR
AIR GRUYERE
TOBLERONE AIRWAYS
VITORINOX AIRLINES

I think everybody would connect the above names with that beautifull country!
regards
CV990, the Maserati of the skies!
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 24, 2001 1:09 am

What is the meaning of DAT??

Is it Dutroux Air Transport???

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gerardo
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 24, 2001 4:31 am

Slz, was that your best shot? I sincerely don't hope so.

If it is really that easy to find aout the age (you know, the user profile), why did you ask me how old I am?

Happy nana, my dear!

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gerardo
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 24, 2001 4:51 am

OK, back to the original topic

CV990 made a new approach by using Swiss symbols. From the marketing point of view (and still on the funny side sometimes), let me add the following comments:

SWATCHAIR: cheap flights in small aicraft, but very hip and fancy to fly with. People would even check in 3 hours earlier, just when a special Swatch series was released. Company would be very succesful

AIR GRUYERE: special meal Fondue moitié-moitié. Of course the fuselage would be yellow.

TOBLERONE AIRWAYS: uhm sorrry, Toblerone isn't Swiss anymore, it's American

VITORINOX AIRLINES: very military-style, but very precise and well known in the whole world.

On a serious note: I like Edelweiss Air, but this name is taken.

The decision of a new name isn't very easy. On one side you have the "old" image of Swissair and Crossair, if they will continue with these names. Of course, the costs to reposition these brands are considerable.

But, if they decide to use a new name, this name has to positioned, which costs a fortune. The advantage is, that they can build up a new image, without having to deal with legal consequences of the SR bankrupcy.

All in all, an interesting decision to follow. Everything seems possible at this point.

Regards
Gerardo



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CV990
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 24, 2001 7:40 am


Hi!

I agree with Gerardo too, Edelweiss is quite a nice name to show Switzerland, I like the livery of their planes ( specially the A330-200!!! ) and I can say I had the previlege of flying them last year. If you look to the flower it pretty looks like the white cross of the swiss flag no? Here go the details of my Edelweiss flights:

FAO/ZRH - 2000/08/17 - A320-214 - HB-IHY
ZRH/FAO - 2000/08/24 - A320-214 - HB-IHY

I was very impressed by the service even beeing a charter airline!
About Gerardo details about those swiss airlines ( joke of course ) I found out a great sense of humor, we need that in this forum too! I didn't knew that Toblerone was no longer swiss, that's a pitty! Can the american keep the same standard?
regards
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 24, 2001 8:04 am

If the airline operated out of Geneva instead of Zurich I would say Air Suisse.
 
planeguy
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 24, 2001 9:07 am

How about "HELVETIA Swiss Airlines"?
 
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 24, 2001 10:59 am

I understand its `SWISS'. Thats it, with a colour scheme a little like the old SR scheme, you know dark brown underside, same for the engines and a red tail with the cross on it.
 
gerardo
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 24, 2001 8:45 pm

WorldVoyager, "Air Suisse" would work very good. About 20-30% of Switzerland is French speaking. Franch is also one of our 4 official languages and finally, French is still the most important diplomatic language.

So, why not Air Suisse?

Gerardo
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LHMark
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 24, 2001 10:59 pm

Ahem: "Air Heidi."

"The Airline Formerly Known As Swissair"

"Helveticana"

"Air Zurich (and sometimes Geneva)"

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RJ100
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RE: New Name For Swissair/Crossair?

Sat Nov 24, 2001 11:07 pm

Hello

Toblerone is still produced in Switzerland, but they belong to the Kraft food company, which is American.

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