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UPS Going Public And Challenge Air

Thu Jul 22, 1999 1:28 pm

First off UPS is going to be offered on the NYSE. OK now that I just have hit the lottery I'm going to retire and take up aviation photography  
DC-10man asked about Challenge Air Cargo's DC-10 fleet and how it was going to be intergrated into UPS's fleet? In the deal which has to be finalized no aircraft are involved in the deal so my guess is Challenge is going to return the aircraft to the companies they lease from since their entire fleet is leased UPS leases Challenge the 757-24apf's but not the DC-10's so the 10's will not be used by UPS.
With the stock going public it looks as if UPS is going to explore other opportunities that will boost its presence in the cargo arena. Instead of shipping overnight parcels it looks as if its going to go after alot more palletized heavy items too.
Hey Boeing do you have any good deals on some 747-400 Freighters?
 
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RE: UPS Going Public And Challenge Air

Thu Jul 22, 1999 1:32 pm

What's happening to the pilots at CAC. Are they expendable.
 
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RE: UPS Going Public And Challenge Air

Thu Jul 22, 1999 1:57 pm

Remember when UPS used pilots from contracted companies to fly their aircraft. Then in 1988 decided to form their on airline. Alot of those pilots were going to be out of work but UPS hired alot of the good ones. It is probably (stressing the probably) because the deal isn't finalized yet it has to be aproved by the US. D.O.T. and by the individual Latin Countries.
Challenge operates about 120 flights a week to 16 cities in 13 countries in Latin America. These are going to be absorbed into UPS's network meaning more pilots. The planes that come into DFW and MIA from SDF usually sit on the ground in MIA and DFW during the day monday thru Friday well now they will be operating to Latin America and back rather than collecting dust. Challenge pilots are going to be the most experienced for those routes right? They already fly the 757-24apf right? Alot of Challenge's pilots I believe have experience on the 8 since they had them in their fleet at one time. UPS will probably use 75's primarily on those routes with some 76's and 8's. It looks good for Challenge's pilots.
 
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RE: UPS Going Public And Challenge Air

Thu Jul 22, 1999 2:29 pm

That's good to here. They are one of the sadest paid bunch of pilots I've ever seen. Captains make 65 per hour on the DC10's. The're just freighter trash in nice airplanes. Most probably aren't UPS material. But everyone get's lucky once and this just might be their moment.
 
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RE: UPS Going Public And Challenge Air

Thu Jul 22, 1999 3:30 pm

Thanks for the update UPS Pilot. From what I have heard, the CAC DC-10 pilots were let go. JETPILOT, my airline just recently transitioned from freight to passenger. I only have one thing to say, I miss boxes. It may not be as glamorous, but boxes don't bitch.ADIOS

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