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Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:21 am

Hi - in reponse to an earlier post by 'Iainhol' i thought i would pose this question to everyone. On what aircraft do u feel safer - a two engine or a four engine aircraft on a long haul route?
 
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:22 am

Well, It really doesn't matter, I would feel safer on a 4 engine aircraft, but a 2 engine aircraft is quieter and more comfortable. But in response to your post, I would take a 4 engine 747 with Virgin Atlantic over a 2 engine Boeing 777 with British Airways
 
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:25 am

Very safe on both. Logic says much higher chance of a turn back on a 4 engine. (4 engines have twice the engines, and engines are not etops maintaned.) I don't make a decision on flights based on 2 or 4 enginees.
 
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:25 am

i am with you Critter592 - the feel of a 747 has special feel about it compared to two engined aircraft
 
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:49 am

I feel slightly safer on a four-engine aircraft than a two-engine aircraft.

Sure, if one assumes that each engine is equally well maintained, a four-engine plane has a higher chance of engine failure, due to simply having more engines. However, an engine failure is more survivable on a four-engine plane, and the chance of yet another engine failing is extremely small - Unless of course the failure was caused by another reason (aerodynamic stress, out of fuel, ect), and then you are in just as much trouble in a four engine plane as a two-engine plane.
 
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 12:05 pm

The way I see it, the things that would simultaneously fail both engines of a twin (fuel exhaustion or flying through volcanic ash) would also fail all four engines of a four-engined plane. Plus, the strict maintainence procedures mandated for ETOPS certification reduce the probability of an incident like the Eastern L1011 that lost all three engines due to improper maintainence.
 
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 12:08 pm

Looking at the statistics, I agree that a four engine airplane has the better chance of turning around. I have flown two, three and four engined airplanes over the Atlantic many times and I never really thought about that aspect of my travels.
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 12:15 pm

i'd take a 757 over an electra if that's what you mean  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

actually i've never been on a 4 engine plane. 1,2 and 3 only.
 
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 12:46 pm

2,3 or 4 engined A/C - doesn't matter - as long as it has more than one (I like to have some redundancy). Also prefer to have them on the wings (L-1011 okay though).
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 12:53 pm

I have never been on a 4 engine aircraft, but I have been on 2 and 3. I would probably fell safer on a 4 because if one goes, you still have 3 more that work.
 
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 2:43 pm

I feel safer on a 4 engine. As stupid as it may sound.

I just think four engines are cool.
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 2:52 pm

I had flew on 2 & 3 engines aircrafts. I haven't yet flew on any 4-engines planes... soon to be BA744 or AF343...I will give it a try some day !!

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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 7:52 pm

2 or more engined A/C will do for me! Big thumbs up Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 7:57 pm


A 777 is just as good  Big thumbs up but of course I would feel a bit safer on a 4 engine jet especially at take-off when an engine failure would result in only having one (very powerful though) left.

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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 7:58 pm

I feel safer onboard a 4-engined aircraft. Whatever people say. Many 2-engined longhaul aircraft are still quite new while a lot of the Quads are older. Reliability has something to do with age. The steep rising in engine trouble incidents with 777s this year can not be ignored.
 
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 8:15 pm

It depends on the route.

If I was flying long haul over water - e.g. atlantic, then Iwould prefer 4 engines. If the flight was entriely over land, then it would make much of a difference.

Reason being, if an a/c loses an engine 2 hours from the nearest land, then i'd be happier flying on 3 than 1!!
 
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 8:54 pm

Actually it never concerns me how many engines an aircraft has, I pay more attention to the aircrafts age, I would much rather fly a new 777 or A330 than a 20 year old 747 and I would rather fly a new 747 than a 20 year old DC10 (I actually changed a flight last year from Philadelphia to LHR to an earlier one because it meant flying on a new 777 rather than a 747 'classic')

In all of the flights I have ever made, the only aborted takeoffs due to mechanical problems I have encountered have all been made on older aircraft (ATA L1011's usually).

Even so - I have to say as long as the pilot is happy to fly it, I'm usually happy to get on any aircraft.

 
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Tue Nov 20, 2001 12:35 am

For peace of mind, four-engined planes are definitely better, but I am in no way suggesting that two engined planes are unsafe. There are many factors to consider when determining safety, and the number of engines is just one of many factors.
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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Tue Nov 20, 2001 1:33 am

Safety-wise I don't see much of a difference. But there is nothing like being in a 747, and feeling the power and weight under you (especially if you are on on the top deck). Truely the queen of the skies.

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RE: Who Feels Safer On A 4 Engine Aircraft?

Tue Nov 20, 2001 1:45 am

given the choice between a 25 year old 747-100 and a brand spanking new 777, I know which I'll take.
You just gotta love those BA 777s.
imo.

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