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Routings Out Of Sydney

Tue Nov 20, 2001 9:47 pm

I'll be on Air New Zealand 14 from SYD to LAX this Friday. Just wondering how the LA-bound 747's usually depart from SYD. I hear that this flight usually goes out from 34L and I've seen 744's ascending above the Western suburbs in the late mornings.

Do the LA flights travel North along the coast? Do they turn out over the Eastern suburbs (can't recall seeing too many 744's out there)? Anyone know where they go?
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RE: Routings Out Of Sydney

Wed Nov 21, 2001 2:20 am

From 34L they head out to Richmond (northwest) then go out to sea.... otherwise earlier as ordered by ATC. If they depart on 16L, they'll turn to 180 or 200 heading for a while until heading east... Check for SID details.

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RE: Routings Out Of Sydney

Wed Nov 21, 2001 5:06 am

What are SID details. I often hear departing aircraft being given instructions and told to "Cancel SID". What does this mean?


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RE: Routings Out Of Sydney

Wed Nov 21, 2001 8:38 am

It's obviously dependent on wind.

BTW, 744's can't take off from 16L...I assume you mean 16R.

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RE: Routings Out Of Sydney

Wed Nov 21, 2001 10:22 am


SID stands for Standard Instrument Departure which is a standard departure routing an aircraft must take to reach it's initial airway.
This usually consists of a combination of headings, fixes,ndb's,vor's and altitudes.
"Cancel SID" simply means to cancel the preset departure routing and follow atc vectors as instructed.

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RE: Routings Out Of Sydney

Wed Nov 21, 2001 11:30 am

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747's have and do use 16L for departures on occasion, although obviously they would not going direct to LAX.
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RE: Routings Out Of Sydney

Wed Nov 21, 2001 11:40 am

RW16L/34R is no longer approved for anything over a 767 due to cracking.
Going to LA off RW34L or 16R most occasions is via a Sydney Radar departure with a radar vector off the coast out to Nobar. I have flown straight up the harbour on this departure from 34L...beautiful.
To get this departure from RW34L it has to be specifically requested with a right turn or a Richmond departure is issued, wasting a lot of time.