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A Question About FedEx 722's?

Sun Nov 25, 2001 5:03 am

I'm not sure what FedEx's timetable is for retiring it's Boeing 727-200's, it doesn't seem that soon, but what do you think FedEx is going to do when they do start replacing there B722's?, what type of aircraft are there going to utilize?
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RE: A Question About FedEx 722's?

Sun Nov 25, 2001 11:43 am

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RE: A Question About FedEx 722's?

Mon Nov 26, 2001 3:36 am

Probably 733 and 734.

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RE: A Question About FedEx 722's?

Mon Nov 26, 2001 3:44 am

I know they retired a sizeable batch of 727-100s a few years ago because I saw them at Mojave. Someone took a photo from the road so I have proof!


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Don't know about the 727-200s, but I'm likewise curious about how long they'll stay in the FedEx fleet.
 
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RE: A Question About FedEx 722's?

Mon Nov 26, 2001 3:54 am

What about 757's? Little bigger, with good economics and better range, yes? Or are they too big? How does UPS do with their 757's?
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RE: A Question About FedEx 722's?

Mon Nov 26, 2001 6:51 am

The 75's are great! Instead of opting for 727-200's UPS chose the 757 which was an excellent choice. They have good short field performance and exceptional climb performance. Something though tells me Fed Ex won't go with a 75. I'd bet more on a A-320 cargo varient when they decide to produce one.
 
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RE: A Question About FedEx 722's?

Mon Nov 26, 2001 7:44 am

The Fedex 722 fleet is relatively young, and with low utilization, they should be good for another 10 years.
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RE: A Question About FedEx 722's?

Mon Nov 26, 2001 9:00 am

The 727-200s aren't going anywhere soon, but I believe the eventual replacement is already on our ramps: The A-310. Why would we want another narrow body when we could go to all widebody and eliminate an entire type of container and, consequently, simplify the sort? The A-310 can operate into the same airports, carries about 50% more on the same amount of fuel, 2 pilots, and is already in the fleet.
 
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RE: A Question About FedEx 722's?

Mon Nov 26, 2001 12:41 pm

Seagull, the A310 is indeed replacing many of the 722's on specific routes, but it is not a candidate for repl of the entire 722/721 fleet:
1. There were not that many A310's built. Fedex has already procured most of the used A310's available in the past 5-6 years. There are very few -200's left. Relatively more -300's but then these would be heavier and hence less efficient on US domestic routes. However, the # of A310's potentially available worldwide for Fedex would only repl a fraction of the 722 fleet.
2. There will always be a need in the Fedex fleet for an aircraft w the 35k-50k cargo capacity of the 721/722 fleet. Having the F27 (or its replacement) and then only widebodies (the smallest being the A310) would leave too big a capacity gap in between (at around the 50k capacity). Most likely candidates are the 733/734 or the A320 (assuming a cargo conversion program), less likely would be the MD-80.

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RE: A Question About FedEx 722's?

Mon Nov 26, 2001 1:25 pm

Yyz717: Won't there be some newly available A310-200s with the recent downturn? What about the A310s that Air France is retiring?

Why shouldn't FedEx buy aircraft new, as they are with the A380? Perhaps Boeing and Airbus will market a 737-800F or A320F at some point in the future...
 
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RE: A Question About FedEx 722's?

Mon Nov 26, 2001 3:47 pm

AF only has 10 A310's. Fedex has already committed to the 6 -200's when AF retires them.

As for a potential 722 replacement, it wouldn't make sense for Fedex to buy new 738F or A320F's (assuming they were offered). The low utilization rate would make the capital cost too high. Better to procure used 733/734F or converted A320F's.

Neil


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RE: A Question About FedEx 722's?

Mon Nov 26, 2001 8:34 pm

Does anybody know where the FedEx B722´s are used inside Europe or especially in Germany? Are thei still in service? Or do fedEx operate them only in the US? The FX B727 was an regular visitor in FRA a couple of Years ago.

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RE: A Question About FedEx 722's?

Mon Nov 26, 2001 10:13 pm

FEDEX HAS ALLREADY RULED OUT THE 737-300 & -400'S THEY ARE TOO SLOW AND HAVE ALL THE LONG TERM MAINT. PROBLEMS THE 727'S HAVE , THE PROBLEM THAT WILL END THE 727 IS THE HIGH EXHAUST GAS EMISSIONS FROM THE JT8'S, I'M SURE THAT SOMEDAY SOON FEDEX WILL BUY USED 757'S FROM BOEING JUST LIKE DHL DID. ITS THE PERFECT REPLACEMENT AND THE PRICE IS FALLING, I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE THE TWA 757'S BEING SOLD BY AMERICAN SOON.
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RE: A Question About FedEx 722's?

Mon Nov 26, 2001 11:40 pm

T-Bird,
the Fedex 722's used in Europe were replaced by A310's. The 722's were returned to US ops.

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