CHRISBA777ER
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This Is Really Starting To Annoy Me....

Thu Nov 29, 2001 12:56 am

NO A VS. B WARS!!!!

Excuse me for pointing this out, but as an Englishman, it annoys me, when i keep seeing this. Why is it that americans dont like anything not made in their country?
Im as sick of the nagging a vs. b wars as all of you, but it annoys me when Americans (not all of you just some) make all these doom and gloom allegations at airbus jetliners, based on nothing more than the fact that some airlines in the US have chosen to order the european jet instead of your beloved Boeing. I once heard someone say, "Im not flying United anymore, they are Airbus's biggest customer..." Thats hardly fair. The two manufacturers are equally good at what they do, and it is a healthy rivalry, and a good and exciting one to watch "will KLM go for A330 or 777????" MY POINT IS THAT I FEEL SURE JUDGING BY SOME OF THE COMMENTS IVE HEARD, THAT IF IT WAS A 767 THAT HAD GONE DOWN IN QUEENS, AN AMERICAN AIRLINER, YOU WOULD NOT BE SO QUICK TO SLAG IT OFF, AND MAKE OUT THAT ITS NOT SAFE. All the alegations and comments made to airbus, i just do not see that they are fair... I mean, who are you at war with? Europe or Terrorism? We back you to the hilt in Afgahistan and all you lot can say is

"Thanks very much for sacrificing your own soldier's lives to help us, Britain, our best buddies in the world, but by the way, your airplanes are terminally unsafe, and i will avoid flying airbus in future..."

Of course some of you will just say, that im english so im biased towards airbus. no im not. I like them, just as much as boeing, and my all time fave planes are both american, the MD11, and 777. Is it just a mirror of your aggressive free trade policies that the US government has? To the rest of the world, free trade means just that, but to the US Govt. it seems to mean hefty levys on all foreign nations that want to trade with us, but wont give us preferencial trade agreements, and export taxes rates etc. We will not allow non-US shipping into direct competition with US shipping unless the US government is allowed to subsidise the US shipping so they can undercut the Europeans...Such behaviour is illegal in the EU, by the european comission on free trade and industry, the US is in the OECD, but still they cant let Americans trade on a level playing field, despite that being key to your bloody constitution! so why do they do it?

OK rant over.
I know we, here in Europe are not always squeaky clean, but lets just stop dissing Airbus, or anything else European just becasue it is European. I mean you buy BMW's and Merc instead of Oldmobiles and others, so whats up? THEY ARE EQUALLY AS GOOD, AND BOTH ARE SAFE, SO LETS STOP THE XENOPHOBIC AIRBUS BASHING OK?

I call it misplaced patriotism. Nothing wrong with being patriotic, certainly now, but lets just keep iT in perspective. Sorry if ive insulted any of you, its not personla, just a gripe really.

Best Wishes
CHRIS MORGAN
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:04 am

Now I agree with your sentiments - Airbus is a dream compared to Boeing - HOWEVER! The UK's contribution to the European Airbus is limited to upholstering the seats and fitting toilet roll holders!
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:06 am

XENOPHOBIC AIRBUS BASHING?

That's funny.

From the heart of a Yank, and I mean this, they're awesome , technically advanced machines, the cutting edge of commercial aviation. Feel better?

But it would do us no good to be all smiles while there could be a design flaw in the aircraft, does it? You didn't see great swarms of patriotic Americans marching around the big hole in the ground in Aliquippa PA after the Red, White and Blue built Boeing 737 went in, did you? Hell no. We questioned the design, eventually determined that there was a flaw in the way the rudder worked, and worked to prevent it happening again. If you know anything about aviation, you know that that examination has paid off.

Is there a flaw in the composites of the A300 tail? Are we bashing Europe for asking that? I doubt even 99 percent of Europeans would say that. You guys fly in 'em too.
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:08 am

That and the wings...

No, we just put alloy wheels, Chrome dummy exhausts, and max-power, "Kenwood",and "No Fat Birds" stickers on em....
...in keeping with the Kevving up of our cars - a national pastime it would seem.

Cheers
CHRIS
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:12 am

Fair enough gripe and Although a boeing man I have to say it is to the benefit of EVERYBODY in aviation to have 2 healthy competitors.

If there was no competition we may never have seen the 777 of the a330/a340

Nothing wrong with either

Regards

 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:14 am

Heavy metal: Yeah mate, i agree with you, for what its worth, and yes i do fly on them, and its not you im having a pop at, its the people who now, because of a (unproven) supposed defect in the A300, they are now trumpeteing to all who will listen, that "Im am not going to fly airbus" I remember seeing a man sayign he would now be taking southwest and not america west as they have got an all boeing fleet. how sad can you get?
No, im not getting at you Heavymetal, you make a valid point, but i think you could look at the actions of some of your countrymen and take note...there is some of it going on, i dont think you can deny it. I just want to see it stopped thats all.
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CHRISBA777ER
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:15 am

No, Boeing 767, i agree with you, and i stated as such im my thread post, but, it the other parts im whinging at.

CHRIS MORGAN
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:18 am

Probably explains why you get into the Airbus with a remote lock on a keyring. The strobe flash 3 times and you get a squeaking noise as the alarm/immobiliser goes off!

Here's to the new Airbus XR3i

As for wings - fair point. But there's a lot more fun things to be involved with when gluing and airbus together?
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:24 am

Both Airbus and Boeing are great companies and the competetion benefits all of us with better products. B777s are excellent aeroplanes, just like A340s and both American and European countries should enjoy the beauties and comforts of having such fantastic options. It is due to this competetion that soon we will have A380 and the Sonic Cruiser. Boeing and Airbus are fighting with each other to be "better" and that is why they are all being innovative and creative.
So lets congratulate both for their contribution to the aviation history and hope that new strong companies will come out and compete with them.
Regards,
ERDEM
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:25 am

CHRISBA777ER.........

You just started another B v A!
When in doubt, flat out!
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:30 am

NO!! CHRISBA ain't started anything. He is pointing that we should stop this senselessness, and better do it now and just appreciate both Boeing and Airbus without being biased! Why is this so hard to understand?
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:34 am

SUDDEN: no mate, thats exactly what im trying not to do. Its not about A VS B, it about why Americans wont fly Airbus. I think its because they dont trust anything not american, but my opinion is not american either so you probably wont trust that either....

THIS IS NOT AN A vs B WAR!!!!!

Im not trying to compare the companies. If you actually READ my post then youll have gathered that by now. That goes for Cyprus-Turkish too. Im trying to sort out why Americans wont travel Airbus purely because they are not American....sorry to keep repeating myself...

Do you understand where im coming from, or do i have to explain myself better?

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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:37 am

This is not an A vs. B war...
This is NOT an A vs. B WAR
THIS IS NOT AN A VS. B WAR!!!!!
THIS IS NOT......


This is an A vs. B war.
 Smokin cool
 
Cyprus-Turkish
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:39 am

If they don't want to fly Airbus, it is their choice.
Part of it might be the fact that they operate many all Boeing fleets, introducing an Airbus airliner might be more costly in terms of crew training and maintenance.
Do i get it now? or stil...?
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:48 am

Sorry Turkish-Cyprus, ill explain. What i'm pissed off about is as follows.
People conducting their own a vs. b wars, in america, by suddenly becoming experts about airline safety, and staing publicaly in a manner that suggests a deep rooted hatred for all things non-american, that:

(undertones in brackets)

"The Airbus A300 (and therefore the entire airbus fleet-obviously) is not safe, and that composite rudders (blah blah blah) are not safe and so I (so you should all do the same) will not be flying Airbus anymore, as they are not safe (or american, which is more important)"

they are basing the whole a v b thing on the fact that airbus is not american....they say that operators that fly non-american airliners are not as good for exactly that reason and nothing to do with service etc.

I put it to you, that it is absolutely nothing to do with the airliners themselves, and more the fact that some (not all by any means) americans are being just a teeny weeny bit rascist/xenophobic about it all. They think the rest of the world is uncultured and not as good as them. Dont get me wrong, i love america, and ive been there sooooooooooo many time, and on the whole, i like americans, but on this point i think they are being out of order.

There, does that help?
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:52 am

I live in Canada, and every airline here except for WestJet has Airbus aircraft in their fleet! I think Airbus are awesome aircraft and I can't wait to see Air Canada have there A340-500's and 600's Smile/happy/getting dizzy
I like British Airways! I'm not sure why, but I do! ;-)
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:53 am

Can i just say....
I love Airbus, and I love Boeing, so a A vs B war is a tad counterproductive, so if that all youve got, then dotn bring it onto this thread ok?

I think its easier for americans to feel that its an a vs b war, but they should look inside and ask why they all dont like boeing...
Its no coincidence that there are no American Airbus fans is it? Thought not. Thats all i have to say about ti, and i dont wnat to talk about it, i just want to see it stopped, ok?
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:57 am

Nice sentiment ba777, but its not really what im trying to talk about....

ok then ill ask you.
why do americans suddenly not like airbus?


Im not talking about the aircraft themselves, but more about the nationalities involved- if it had been a 767 at queens, do you think they would have been as quick to point the finger at the airplane?

Regards, CHRIS MORGAN
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:57 am

Sorry, Chris. I think you're being way over-sensitive. You're reading waaay to much into the postings of only a few people.

There are plenty of pro-Airbus flamers here too...does that mean I get offended by their insinuations that Airbuses are the hi-tech hot rods of the skies, and Boeings are antiquated clunkers, the product of a dinosaur company and an oblivious, unimaginative culture. Nope. Penis envy, nothin' more. Don't let it bug ya.
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:03 am

CHRISBA777ER--I object to the way that you are singling out Americans in your gripe. We don't all hate/avoid Airbus aircraft. Any enlightened person would agree with you that boycotting airlines for flying Airbus planes is ridiculous.

For you, it should not be the "Americans" that you chastise, but all forces of stupidity and ignorance, regardless of their nationality. In the future, if you would like to comment on idiotic behavior of a MINORITY of Americans, please make it clear that they are a minority. Thank you.

Incidentally, as an American, let me thank you and your countrymen for your support in the "war" against terrorism. It IS appreciated.
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:08 am

Thanks heavymetal.

I must say i hope you are right, but it is visible in all that americans take part in overseas, i mentioned trade agreements earlier, but in a lot of things. It just annoys me thats all. I am going to go live in america soon, and i really like the place, but its the superior attitude some people over there have...Im not talking about A VS B, i used it as an example, so perhaps this entire thread is off topic, and should be canned, but do you no agree that there are some people who insist on flying american planes over non american planes because they feel that they are either better, or that they are morally obligated to do so? Put it this way. I take a transatlantic flight. Which airline do i take? Either Lufthansa or Continental. I like them both. BA are too expensive normally, and United's food and legroom suck. So there you go. Some americans dont think like that do they? They feel morally obligated to fly with an american airline, because they cannot possibly envisage a foreign one being better.

Maybe i am being over sensitive, but its just my two penny, sorry, cent's worth.

Cheers
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:14 am

Lindy, Sorry, i thought i made it clear in my post, i apologise if i didnt, and i know very well that there are other people in the world who do it, and yes, that the americans who do, are in a minority. Maybe because theres so many americans in the forum, and it always seems to boil down to an A vs B war. You can picture the thread now...

"South African Airways to forge marketing alliance with Thai international"

Not thirty seconds later it becomes...

"Boeing are just better, and airbus are for fools"

how does that work? i ask you?!

Come on Lindy, you have heard it a hundred times. As an enlightened american, it must bug you and heavymetal to death...Sorry mate, i was having a whinge at the minority. didnt mean to offend you.

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Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:14 am

Come on people chill out.
I do think that the A300 AA accident was more revealing of AA's non-caring maintenance rather than Airbus' quality. Wouldn't it be nice if AA decides to replace the whole A300 fleet with brand new A330s. I would love to see that day to prove that the bias towards non-US is just by minorities.
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:16 am

Anyway you can't hide the fact that Airbus jets are more boring than Boeing jets.
Offcorse Airbus makes good planes, but the only airbuses that are interesting to fly on are the 300/310.

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Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:19 am

Sorry to say..you wont find American buying any airbus planes for a while...they are gonig ALL Boeing on their main fleet.

Anyways...why would they need A330's? They have 767's and 777's.
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:19 am

Thank you Cyprus.
I agree utterly, but, the fact that we KNOW they wont, is precisely my point...well.. maybe im being too hard, i think its somewhere between xenophobia, and the fact that the 777 is such a truly wonderful airplane....like they need an excuse to buy 777's!


I'd do the same i must say!

Regards

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Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:19 am

Quite alright, Chris. No real offense taken. I just wanted to assert that morons come in all shapes and sizes and speak many different languages.

Yes, I do get fed up with my hard-boiled co-nationals who would apparently prefer a isolationist and protectionist regime(Who think buying or using a foreign-made good is unpatriotic). The A vs. B thing is really tiresome - Planes of all types are cool!

I hope that you will enjoy your upcoming stay in the US and hope that you wind up some place where sensible people are in the majority.
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:21 am

I am an American.

I like Boeing and Airbus.

I like the A320 over the 737

I like the A321

I like the 747 over the A340

I like the 767 over the A330

I like both Audi and Ford

The European and Asian carriers I have flown are superior to any American carriers I have flown.

I like product because of their quality, not because of their country of orgin.
 
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I Couldn't Agree More, Just...

Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:22 am

..one thing from a German (that's me!): Are you really comparing US cars to German Mercs and BMWs??? You can't be serious!!!
Unfortunately you are right with all other things you said. Funny speeches about globalisation and free trade bringing wealth and freedom to all countries in the world is one thing, sharing your own wealth with others, now that is something completely different, and that is where the fun stops! Certainly in America, but also in England, in Germany, etc., pick your choice!
What to do about it?? Nothing, I'm afraid, except if you know a way to change human nature!
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:24 am

"Airbus jets are more boring than Boeing jets."
YES Tg 747-300 a very educated and a sensible argument. I have diffuculty understanding your mentality and your way of thinking, and that is if you think at all...

With respect
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:26 am

Andreas, dude, have you been in an oldsmobile lately?
actually, yeah you are right... my dad ordered the new shape M3 two weeks ago (theres a six month waiting list!)

PHL - Spot on matey- wish more thought like you

Regards, CHRIS MORGAN
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:56 am

sorted.
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:59 am

My English Friends, I'm an American and I like Airbus... Please consider the source. This board is (for the most part )prety childish. Aircraft a bought for economic reasons ... we are the ones that add the flag waving.... God save the queen ... and all aviation.
Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 3:00 am

What I really like that I have a hard time finding in the US is clotted cream, for my scones of course. The name was somewhat gross, but it sure is tasty.
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 3:04 am

PHL, luckily for you i live in Plymouth which is on the Devopn Cornwall border. Its the only place in the UK where you can get good clotted cream and pasties.

Have you ever had a Cornish Pasty? Ooh im starving!

Seriously though mate, clotted cream? were drowning in it right here dude!
Regards
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 4:28 am

Lets not take such offense to things like this. Comments like "I"ll never fly an Airbus or Boeing plane" are made by people who dont' think before they speak...Rather don't think things out. There's nothing wrong with either company, they both build great products. I've flown on both, and I really like the aircraft both make. Not particularly fond of the 737, would rather go on the A320. I prefer the 757 to the A320, etc. Now regarding the A300, it is the first and longest production widebody twin. This is the first accident of it's kind for the A300, if their does turn out to be some sort of structural flaw I'm sure it'll be rectified. It's a great plane, I've really enjoyed my flights on them.

Let's all keep the airplane bashing to a minimum. If it weren't for both of them there'd be no competition or incentive to make a better airplane.
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 4:40 am

Come on lads! lets not argue, just beg to differ, seems a bit silly to me, however i agree there have been certain people bashing airbus because there european, i'm english and i'm not offended, but the english contribte more to airbus than toilet roll holders.
Perhaps an A340-600 should be painted in red, white and blue. Lets keep the anglo-amercian relationship strong,at these times
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 5:31 am

Chris:

I guess my first bit of advice would be to treat alot of what you see here with a good deal of scepticism. This is, after all, a discussion board with 10000 participants with a wide range of maturity, experience, interests and agendas. I know of some of the topics which you
are referring to and basically most of them are crap and you really should not let stuff like that get to you and prompt you into making the sort of generalizations which you make in your topic statement. I've been in business a long time now; ALL countries in this world pursue their own interests or agendas "aggressively" as you put it and act to protect those interests and agendas in as many ways as possible. The fact that Boeing and Airbus compete for the same orders and are both heavily promoted by the same national governments which are supposed to be involved in trade negotiations only serves to magnify disputes when they arise. Let's face it, the US/EU have gotten into trade spats over stuff like cheese, cookies and bananas; the only thing that surprises me is that the squabbles over a/c hasn't gotten nastier!
One fact which always seems to elude the "fans" of both framemakers is that the airlines are the ones which choose the planes. Sure, there are always extenuating circumstances, but by and large, the plane with the best combination of features and price usually goes. The Qantas choice of A380 and 738 is indicative of an airline making the most of the competitive environment to get good deals. Yes, there are people who will gripe and allege improprieties but, that will always be the case in the forum since many cannot seem to separate "nationalism" and "patriotism" with "made here". You can supply the "here" with the location of your choice.
Now to finish my order from Hannant's.

Best regards,

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Thu Nov 29, 2001 5:42 am

"Cyprus-Turkish":

Sorry if ypu didn't like my answer, but you should know that my meaning wasn't to give a "educated" one, but rather express my oppinion.
I'm a European, but as I think that Airbuses, like many european products, are more boring than american because they'r so modern.

Hope you accept my personal view.

R'gards

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Thu Nov 29, 2001 5:48 am

What a stupid post.....
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 5:48 am

All I'll say is each has it's faults, but aesthetically, I like Boeing. And Heavymetal once again has the last laugh! You da man! Big grin
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 5:51 am

Are the Cornish pastries the one that derived from the meals that coal miners would take for lunch. meat and such in a nice thick pastry with a big crust to hold onto so the pastry did not get coal dust all over it?
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2001 6:34 am

Are you upset that people dislike Airbus so much that they would not fly a particular airline?

WHY?

I'm sure there are people out there that dislike Boeing so much they would not fly a particular airline because they fly Boeings.

WHO CARES?

I'm also SICK AND TIRED of people trash talking America and Americans.

WE HAVE PRIDE IN OUR COUNTRY. DEAL WITH IT!

If you don't get it, there's no need to sit there and slam on me and my country.

You don't see me sitting here and calling people from other countries names because they don't agree with me. And this is the same issue with the rediculous A vs. B debate.

Some people don't like Boeing, and some Airbus. That's the way it is. The same way that I don't care for any particular product. Calling me names and and stereotyping Americans is not going to get me to change my mind, rather show just how intolerant the rest of the world is.

GROW UP!

Fly Boeing or Airbus, or neither. WHO CARES!

With Disgust,
Braniff727 (or BraniffA320 so as to not offend)
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RE: This Is Really Starting To Annoy Me....

Thu Nov 29, 2001 6:46 am

Hey! I'm offended!! Why not BraniffDC-8 or do you not mind if you offend Douglas lovers!


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RE: This Is Really Starting To Annoy Me....

Thu Nov 29, 2001 6:53 am

I agree with braniff...
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RE: This Is Really Starting To Annoy Me....

Thu Nov 29, 2001 7:22 am

98% of all passengers whether European or American have no idea what manufacturer or model of aircraft they are flying or have flown.

Did you ever (like I always do) ask someone not in the aviation world, what type aircraft (or even airline in some cases) they flew in on? Pretty frustrating to say the least, but understandable. This is our choice of career or hobby, but to most others, just a method of going A to B (pardon the pun).

Actually, the U.S. places consumerism above all else. The American public, press, legal sys. and government will scrutinize any perceived or real shortcomings with the airlines or its airplanes without regard to its country of manufacture. Just look at the DC10, 737. Even the 747 in regards to TWA800.

As an airline mechanic, I consider the A300-600F my favorite plane to work, it's both very reliable and it's systems are a challenge to understand but satisfying once understood. Please read my previous posts in the Tech section in regards to this airplane, most are favorable to the Airbus. But...lets not make excuses and accusations of an overhype in regards to the AA accident. There IS a problem and it is in Airbus's best interest to put their heads together and solve it. The flying public will accept no less.
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RE: This Is Really Starting To Annoy Me....

Thu Nov 29, 2001 7:39 am

Agreed with WarriorII.

What kind of dumb topic is this? No one really cares if you get upset when Americans prefer Boeing over Airbus.
 
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RE: This Is Really Starting To Annoy Me....

Thu Nov 29, 2001 7:51 am

I started a thread a couple of months back about people writing comments in the polls saying 'boeing is best' and 'if it ain't Boeing you ain't going'.

These comments/this sentiment is very annoying, its very short sighted and ignorant.

Why not like Airbus? I hear some very lame excuses, i personally prefer to fly on a Boeing 747 than an Airbus A340, or fly on an A320 instead of a 737. I don't really have much preference on what aircraft i fly, i fly because i enjoy FLYING! Anyone who doesn't enjoy it for whatever reason cannot call it a hobby!

I remember a while back someone started a huge Airbus.v.Boeing war on purpose, after the WTC attacks and i have to say it was the most goddamn informative/intellectual A.v.B argument we have ever had! Everyone came up with constructive critism, open minded views. It was great, unfortunetly it got deleted (for an unknown reason) after a couple of days.

That thread was great.

Airbus, Boeing, McD, Lockheed, Fokker, Embraer, Canadair, Ilyushin, Tupolev, they are all great!

Regards

Dan
 
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RE: This Is Really Starting To Annoy Me....

Thu Nov 29, 2001 7:53 am

btw. I think Constructive A.v.B debates are good, stupid uneducated answers with no reasons are bad.
 
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RE: This Is Really Starting To Annoy Me....

Thu Nov 29, 2001 8:02 am

Why can't we all just not talk about A VS B ever. Someone always brings it up. Not trying to be mean here, but when someone brings up something that is like A300 VS B767 or A340 VS A777 do not think of it as A VS B think of it as A300 VS B767 or A340 VS A777 like it is. Just chill and if someone has enough patriotism that they need to be all, American over Foreign or stuff like that, let them be. So basically what I am trying to say is what probably everyone else is: don't everyone get so worked up over a simple comparison. Sorry if I offended anyone, but I am tired of this too!

-Nick  Big grin

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