raggi
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Engine Market Shares On The 777

Thu Nov 29, 2001 7:11 pm

from Pratt&Whitney.com :

The PW4000 has been selected to power more Boeing 777 aircraft than either of its competitors. It was the launch engine for the 777, entering service in 1995.

RollsRoyce.com:

-Trent 800 is now the market leading engine on the Boeing 777 with a 44 per cent share.

-Market leader (40% firm and option aircraft)


And geae.com:

Taken from a news release regarding testing of the GE90-115B:

The GE90-115B is part of the GE90 family, the best-selling engines for Boeing 777 aircraft models. In total, 17 customers have ordered 204 firm and 52 option GE90-powered 777 aircraft, with a firm engine value of more than $6.7 billion.

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Does anyone know the marketshare for the three competing manufacturers ? GE must include the LR- derivates to be able to call themselves marketleaders..
They also don`t offer the GE90 on the standard 773, although they have stated the the -94B will be offered on the 773 in the future...

If anyone knows the numbers, I`d be very thankful  Smile


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RE: Engine Market Shares On The 777

Thu Nov 29, 2001 7:28 pm

I Think:
1. RR Trent
2. GE90
3. PW4000
 
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RE: Engine Market Shares On The 777

Fri Nov 30, 2001 12:38 am

yeah, thanks.

but anyone know in percent for the different versions, 772,772ER and 773....?
I remember reading that the GE90 was the most popular for the 772ER...


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RE: Engine Market Shares On The 777

Fri Nov 30, 2001 1:47 am

Here are some more numbers from Boeing's website on the 777 engines. 33 current customers for the 777...
16 carriers for GE.
11 carriers for PW.
10 carriers for RR.
Sidenotes...2 airlines, BA & JAL, have ordered from 2 different engine makers. BA has GE & RR. JAL has GE & PW. 1 leasing company, IFLC, has ordered all 3 brands.
One other carrier, Alitalia, has yet to select a brand for their 6 777s on order. Hope this helps. Regards.
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RE: Engine Market Shares On The 777

Fri Nov 30, 2001 2:04 am

Hi,

Alitalia has already selected the GE90-94B for its 6 B777-200ER and of course will receive its B777-300ER equipped with GE90-115B.
This is not only because AZ has always been a big GE customer but also for a matter of commonality with the rest of the long haul fleet.
Now that AZ and AF are getting together they could gain from their common B777 with GE90 engines fleet

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RE: Engine Market Shares On The 777

Fri Nov 30, 2001 3:03 am

Per Bill Harms - delivered a/c

RR - 148
PW - 121
GE - 105

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RE: Engine Market Shares On The 777

Fri Nov 30, 2001 9:35 am

Raggi:

B772 - the PW4000 has the lead and the PW4000 was the first engine to enter into service with this model.

B772ER - the GE90 and Trent 800 are fairly even. The GE90 was the first engine to enter into service with this model.

B773 - the Trent 800 has the lead, and it was the first engine to enter into service with this model.

I believe the GE90 has a slim lead with the B773ER/2LR orders, but there are a lot more B777 options with the Trent 800 engines than with the GE90 engines.
 
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RE: Engine Market Shares On The 777

Sat Dec 01, 2001 5:48 am

But The Trent powers the engines of big 777 customers (BA, EK, SQ, AA, DL)
 
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RE: Engine Market Shares On The 777

Sat Dec 01, 2001 8:21 pm

Wouldn`t exactly call DL a big 777 customer, with 7 in service...
BA has more GE- powered 777s than RR- powered.
not to be picky or anything, but still...
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RE: Engine Market Shares On The 777

Sat Dec 01, 2001 9:54 pm

And EK is not a big B777 operator (yet). The combined SQ's and AA's fleet is, I believe, still smaller than UA's PW4000 B777 fleet.
 
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RE: Engine Market Shares On The 777

Sat Dec 01, 2001 11:39 pm

According to The777Man, UAL has 54 777s in service.
SQ has 29 and AA has 39 in service so the two combined are bigger than UAL, but UAL has no rivals to the throne as the biggest 777- operator. Yet...  Smile

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RE: Engine Market Shares On The 777

Sun Dec 02, 2001 12:22 am

i do believe that the RR engine has been selected by many many carriers.
BA have 16 in service with another 16 options.
Emirates, Cathay Pacific, Thai, Singapore, American, all have large orders for the 777, american has 47 on order all powered by RR-Trent-892s, Emirates must have 20 on order/in service, Singaopre like AA and UA has 40 something on order but these too are powered by Trent engines.
PW has engines on All Nippon i believe as well as UA and someone else. Just a handful of customers. GE has 30BA machines flying, and a/c being delivered to JAL??? and some US airlines such as Delta, Continental...

RR by far has the largest share in number of engines and customers.
GE has the fewest engines but maybe more customers that PW. This may change with the new -200LR and -300ER aircraft, which GE has an exclusive on.
BA may buy some of the -300er aircraft which means they will have GE again, or they may not buy the ultra-long range 300, just the boring simple -300 with trent 898s.

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