jetBlue320
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Airtran MD90, MD80

Fri Nov 30, 2001 6:35 am

I would love to see an Airtran MD80/90 come into my airport. If only they had them. Just think of those wonderful birds in Airtran Colors. Who here thinks Airtran should expand with MD90s and MD80s. PLEASE NO MORE 737s
 
Ndebele
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Fri Nov 30, 2001 6:38 am

I'm sure it's only a matter of time until we see Airtran MD-80.
 
jmhLUV2fly
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Fri Nov 30, 2001 8:11 am

I think the MD-80 would be a fine airplane for AirTran to invest in, it would allow them to carry more pax while still utilizing the "DC-9". I hope they will choose to one day operate the type.
JMH
 
AA737-823
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Fri Nov 30, 2001 8:15 am

NO NO NO.

I want them to launch the 717-300. It's common to what they operate, and cheaper than an MD-80. Of course, in it's time (1981 = 20 years ago) the MD-80 was very economical, but today we can do better. I wonder how the MD-80 stacks up to the less interesting yet newer 737-700?????

I want to see them maintain a DOUGLAS fleet. I hope they don't buy SunCountry, because I think that will undo them.

Randy
 
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Fri Nov 30, 2001 8:28 am

With many airlines grounding or retiring their MD-80s & MD-90s for new A320s or 737NGs, I am sure AirTran will have no problem getting some used MD-80s & MD-90s at a good price.
 
Jason Seiple
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Fri Nov 30, 2001 8:43 am

Why should AirTran put aside their goal of getting a brand new fleet and pick up the 15 year old MD-80's that other airlines are dumping for newer aircraft?





Jason Seiple
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Fri Nov 30, 2001 8:51 am

Their DC-9s are used aircraft.
 
SegmentKing
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Fri Nov 30, 2001 9:04 am

Tedski,

don't you read the terms of service on airliners.net

the facts are always irrelevant here!
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Jason Seiple
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Fri Nov 30, 2001 9:18 am

I know the DC-9's are used aircraft... but they are getting rid of them, not buying more of them.
 
SegmentKing
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Fri Nov 30, 2001 9:21 am

Jason,

you mean those aren't NEW DC-9-32s flying around w/ Airtran?

*digs foot in dirt* heh :P
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woodsboy
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Fri Nov 30, 2001 9:21 am

When I was an ops agent for Alaska Airlines I was always dealing with the fueling and fuel burn of the MD-80s and 737-200s and 400s. The 400 was the most efficient (they didnt have 700s or 900s when I was there) but not a whole lot more than the MD-80. On a typical nonstop FAI-SEA flight of approx 3hr 30 min, a 737-400 would burn about 20,000-26,000lbs of fuel; an MD-80 would burn 22,000 to 28,000 pounds of fuel. So, they are comparable. One thing to note, the MD-80 could carry more cargo/bags/mail than a 737-400 and it was MUCH to perform weight and balance on when full. So, sometimes when a 737-400 was at its MGTOW, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to get the CG within limits, however an MD-80 at MGTOW was impossible to NOT be within limits since the CG was soooooo wide. Just a note comparing the two!
 
jetBlue320
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Fri Nov 30, 2001 11:27 am

Well, If they don't get 20 year old MD80s, I hope they get 5 year old MD90s. Which were AAs old planes which were built in 1996, and 1997. I WOULD LOVE TO FLY ON AN AIRTRAN MD90
 
SegmentKing
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Fri Nov 30, 2001 12:06 pm

Considering the MD 90 is FAR from a reliable aircraft, even if FL gets them you may not EVER be able to fly on them *grins*

-nate
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Jason Seiple
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Fri Nov 30, 2001 12:14 pm

The 5 year old MD-90's will be sitting broken while even the aging DC-9's (well, if they could survive flying for ValuJet, they can survive anything) push back and taxi around them.



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travatl
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Tue Dec 04, 2001 2:56 am

Both the CEO and CFO have stated the airline is ACTIVELY seeking larger aircraft. One must assume in the current environment, that the carrier is seeking aircraft that will be compatible with it's current fleet (i.e. MD80s or MD90s). As for the 717-300, it may have more capacity (than the 712), but as it is designed with the same wing as the 717-200 it would do nothing to increase range for AirTran, which the airline also wants.

Looks for MD80s in the fleet within the next 6 - 8 months.

Travis

 
hawaiian717
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Tue Dec 04, 2001 4:12 pm

It's probably worth noting that prior to the Everglades crash, ValuJet operated MD-80s in addition to the DC-9s.

David / SAN
 
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Tue Dec 04, 2001 7:53 pm

Yeah, no M80s, or we'll be seeing on CNN:

"AirTran, the airline formerly known as Valujet, has recently bought some used MD80s, which Valujet flew before flight 592 crashed into the everglades on May 11, 1996. It has been said that used aircraft are more prone to crashes than new aircraft."

"This just in: Delta is going to buy some used 737s. It has been said that used aircraft are more cost-effective in purchasing and that the costs will be passed on to Delta flyers. The new aircraft will likely be used to add more routes to and from Atlanta, to save poor consumers who don't want to fly unsafe airlines like AirTran on routes they hold a monopoly on, such as to Bloomington, Il."
 
qantas777
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Tue Dec 04, 2001 10:50 pm

I would love to see AirTran aquire some Delta M90's in the near future, but I dont think that will happen.

I would like to see them operate 736's also but you dont want to hear that so I will shut up now  Smile
 
jetBlue320
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RE: Airtran MD90, MD80

Wed Dec 05, 2001 2:45 am

"AirTran, the airline formerly known as Valujet, has recently bought some used MD80s, which Valujet flew before flight 592 crashed into the everglades on May 11, 1996. It has been said that used aircraft are more prone to crashes than new aircraft."

Lowfareair, This statement is why I hate CNN. They are trying to drive the passengers away. Who else in here hates CNN? They provide irrelevant information.

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