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Best Days Of The B777 Yet To Come?

Fri Nov 30, 2001 10:39 am

Hey everyone,

Take a look at this.. what do you think?

http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/business/47045_conner19.shtml

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RE: Best Days Of The B777 Yet To Come?

Fri Nov 30, 2001 11:35 am

What does Boeing do with the A340s they'll buy from China Airlines, dump them in the drink or something?  Smile
 
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RE: Best Days Of The B777 Yet To Come?

Fri Nov 30, 2001 11:47 am

Nice piece...a tad pro-Boeing (would Virgin really dump the A340-600 options? I doubt it.)...but overall the story sums up what I think everyone here knows. The Triple Seven is an outstanding design.

As much as I love the looks of the A340, I think Airbus is making a big mistake on its' fetish with four engines. Twins have been flying very very long segments for almost 20 years now. The math just doesnt lie. The airplanes are safe overwater. And two engines are two less than the maintenance bills for four.
 
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RE: Best Days Of The B777 Yet To Come?

Fri Nov 30, 2001 11:49 am

I'm sure the 777 will have lots of orders in the upcoming years. We all know that Delta will eventually buy a substantial batch to replace its MD-11s, and KLM will probably buy a load of 'em too.
 
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RE: Best Days Of The B777 Yet To Come?

Fri Nov 30, 2001 12:41 pm

I'm still waiting for Boeing to launch the 777-200LR. The wing on this baby will as long as the one on the 744. This will be awesome to see someday!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Now, if Boeing could just put the 764's wing on a 763's body, we'll have another winner here, IMHO. Regards.
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RE: Best Days Of The B777 Yet To Come?

Fri Nov 30, 2001 1:17 pm

I also look for the 777 to have an increase in... domestic USA travel.

Here's the theory I have:

With this most recent horror in the airline industry, I think airlines will move to consolidation, they will go back to the way they were about ten years ago. That is, fewer flights, yet with the same capacity.

For example.

I flew as a younger boy from Dallas to San Jose on a DC-10, that was in... about... 1991. Now, there are SEVEN flights every Monday from DFW-SJC, and they are... five super 80s and two 757s. More flights per day equal more convenience for passengers. BUT fewer flights per day equal lower costs, as a result of less maintenance, less fuel, and lower labor.

I think- and hope, as I am sick of small airplanes- that airlines will go back to fewer flights yet bigger airplanes.

Like, maybe, two or three flights a day between DFW-SJC and a 767 or a 777. A 777 is basically a DC-10 in terms of capacity, depending on how AA or others wanted to configure it.

I think that American and others will begin to order MORE 777s and FEWER 737s. That's what my theory boils down to.

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RE: Best Days Of The B777 Yet To Come?

Fri Nov 30, 2001 1:24 pm

FlagshipAZ,

Greetings! Buy you mentioning the hope of Boeing launching the 777-200LR, I assume you mean that you hope it will fly. My understanding that it is launched, just delayed. The 777-300ER, of course, will fly in a couple years. My fear is that the 777-200LR will go the way of the Dodo bird when the Sonic Cruiser is lanched. Stay tuned!
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RE: Best Days Of The B777 Yet To Come?

Fri Nov 30, 2001 2:02 pm

I strongly think that article under estimates the A340-500/600. It doesn't even mention how the airlines will complement those A340s with A380s.
777s are still great though, but lets be fair on the new A340s.
 
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RE: Best Days Of The B777 Yet To Come?

Fri Nov 30, 2001 2:06 pm

the A380 will have nothing to do with the a340
 
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RE: Best Days Of The B777 Yet To Come?

Fri Nov 30, 2001 2:11 pm

o yes it does dude. It is a transition. Read ATW article on Airbus & Boeing Compatibility.
 
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RE: Best Days Of The B777 Yet To Come?

Fri Nov 30, 2001 2:13 pm

Can anyone say 777-400?
 
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RE: Best Days Of The B777 Yet To Come?

Fri Nov 30, 2001 2:53 pm

I want to see the 777 be the first plane to bridge the greatest (most distant) airport pairs non-stop, like Sydney to London or to New York.
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RE: Best Days Of The B777 Yet To Come?

Fri Nov 30, 2001 3:33 pm

Although there are many aircraft, both Boeing and Airbus, that I love, the 777 is the greatest airplane I've ever flown. It is simply incredible. I hope that its success will continue.

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RE: Best Days Of The B777 Yet To Come?

Fri Nov 30, 2001 6:40 pm


Another piece of journalism from the venerable Seattle post-Intelligencer  Smile

Has anyone else noticed a certain format in their articles:

1) Something interesting is happening in aviation...
2) Comments from aviation analyst (Mr. Nisbet or Mr. Aboulafia)
3) Boeing may well be edging Airbus out on this one!

An finally, yes the 777 is still a new model and will continue to generate a huge flow of cash to Boeing for many years to come. There's no question about this.

However, the article neglected to mention that the 345NG program still has more orders than the 777LR program. Neither program has been selling very fast recently, though, even taking the recession into account.

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