Airplanelover
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American Eagle

Sun Dec 02, 2001 7:31 am

Hi,

My grandparents were going to book a flight from Souix Falls to Tampa Bay next year towards June.

This was her Itenerary: Sioux City, IA to Tampa, FL: 1273 miles 5 hrs 40 min

American Airlines Flight AA5895 on an Embraer RJ-170/190 (jet) in coach class
(operated by CHAUTAUQUA DBA AMERICAN CONNECTION)
Departs Sioux City, IA (SUX) Sat, June 22 6:55a 1 hr 30 min
Arrives St Louis, MO (STL) 8:25a
Layover in St Louis 1 hr 51 min



American Airlines Flight AA2626 on a McD-Douglas MD-80 (jet) in coach class
(operated by TWA)
Departs St Louis, MO (STL) Sat, June 22 10:16a 2 hrs 19 min
Arrives Tampa, FL (TPA) 1:35p



Tampa, FL to Sioux City, IA: 1273 miles 5 hrs 2 min

American Airlines Flight AA3189 on a McD-Douglas MD-80 (jet) in coach class
(operated by TWA)
Departs Tampa, FL (TPA) Sat, June 29 6:19a 2 hrs 23 min
Arrives St Louis, MO (STL) 7:42a
Layover in St Louis 56 min


American Airlines Flight AA5768 on an Embraer ERJ-135/145 (jet) in coach class
(operated by CHAUTAUQUA DBA AMERICAN CONNECTION)
Departs St Louis, MO (STL) Sat, June 29 8:38a 1 hr 43 min
Arrives Sioux City, IA (SUX) 10 .

So my question is since when did American Eagle order ERJ-170's and ERJ-190's. What do they look like? Can anyone help!


Thanks!
 
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RE: American Eagle

Sun Dec 02, 2001 7:34 am

Now that's interesting. I did not know that Chataqua ordered 170's. In fact I'd check that out again as they will not be able (at least I think) to operate under the AE umbrella with an aircraft seating that many passangers under AA's pilot contract. Interesting
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MAH4546
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RE: American Eagle

Sun Dec 02, 2001 7:45 am

Ummm...your parents will not be flying American Eagle. They are flying American CONNECTION.
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Airplanelover
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RE: American Eagle

Sun Dec 02, 2001 7:47 am

Ok thanks to your comments and Ive got it down that its connection instead of eagle. Do u think thats literally possible. I think its wierd. How many people fit on a ERJ-170?
 
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RE: American Eagle

Sun Dec 02, 2001 7:57 pm

Wasn't the ERJ-170 rolled out recently? I'm guessing that it would be the first aircraft in many years, if ever, to go from not even having the first flight to going into service in less than 7 months. Either that or it's a glitch.
 
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RE: American Eagle

Sun Dec 02, 2001 8:14 pm

AmEagle has no outstanding ERJ-170/190 orders. They have orders for 25 CRJ700, the first one will be put into service in Jan02. Besides, scope clauses limit the use of large RJs in AA´s/AmEagle´s network to 25 70-seaters, exactly the number they have ordered. If they order additional ones they have to fly themwith mainline pilots. Same applies for Chautauqua Airlines and American Connection (former TransStates).

The Embraer 170 has just recently been rolled out, the first aircraft will be handed over to Crossair in mid-2002. It hasn´t even made its first flight to date.

Seating Capacity
Embraer 170: 70
Embraer 175: 78
Embraer 190: 98
Embraer 195: 108

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Jason Seiple
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RE: American Eagle

Sun Dec 02, 2001 11:58 pm

That itinerary is a mistake or you are just making it up.

No airlines in the world operate the ERJ-170. Chautauqua does not have any coming either. The flight will be an ERJ-145.
 
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RE: American Eagle

Mon Dec 03, 2001 2:09 am

Seiple why do you always acuse people of making things up?
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meechy36
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RE: American Eagle

Mon Dec 03, 2001 2:37 am

I checked in SABRE and it just shows an ERJ operated by Chautauqua to STL connecting to S80/S83's to TPA

Cheers,
Mike-BOS
 
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RE: American Eagle

Mon Dec 03, 2001 2:39 am

check this out...
Its a pic of the American Connection livery
http://www.flychautauqua.com/planeEmbraer140.asp
The only difference is that it says Connection instead of Eagle, the eagle the tail is in solid blue, and the engines don't say RJ on them.
 
Jason Seiple
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RE: American Eagle

Mon Dec 03, 2001 3:58 am

I said it was a possibility it was made up. People make up things on this board all the time.
 
Airplanelover
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RE: American Eagle

Mon Dec 03, 2001 4:29 am

Seiple - It was definatly not made up! It must of been a mistake by the website. Thanks,
Airplanelover
 
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RE: American Eagle

Mon Dec 03, 2001 5:29 am

I also believe it was made up. 10 days ago i was searching for the same flight ( to Tampa, leaving from any city in IOWA) and there was nothing about ERJ-170 on Expedia, Orbits, Travelocity, cheaptickets......
 
us330
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RE: American Eagle

Mon Dec 03, 2001 7:26 am

The tail isn't in solid blue, it only appears that way from the camera angle. It is actually the shadow of the tail.
 
Jason Seiple
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RE: American Eagle

Mon Dec 03, 2001 7:34 am

Us,
He meant the tail logo is solid blue. The eagle on the tail is all blue, not a combination of red and blue like on American Eagle aircraft.




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RE: American Eagle

Mon Dec 03, 2001 8:01 am

Thanks, Jason.
Thats what I intended to say.
Yeah my words weren't exactly clear above.
 
CannedSpam
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RE: American Eagle

Mon Dec 03, 2001 8:03 am

Flying-Tiger,

I thought the scope clause limited AE pilots to a total of 67 RJs with 45 seats or more. I didn't think that there was a cap set specifically for the CRJ-700 that is sperate from this...but I could be wrong since this is not my arena of expertise. Additionally, AE can purchase additional aircraft as long as they are growing at a set increment in relationship to the growth of AA's mainline fleet.
 
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RE: American Eagle

Mon Dec 03, 2001 9:05 am

CannedSpan,

I believe the scope clause for AA does state a maximum of 67 RJ's with 45-50+ seats. If I remember correctly the formula was for every 3 planes AA took, Eagle could take another RJ45-70. They have scooted around this issue with the ERJ-35 and now the ERJ-44.

I remember all this from 97 so it is kind of fuzzy and since I am a flight attendant and not a pilot I got most of it from eating with the crew on layovers, any AA pilots out there know for sure?

Cheers,
Mike-BOS








 
meechy36
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RE: American Eagle

Mon Dec 03, 2001 9:43 am

CannedSpan,

I believe the scope clause for AA does state a maximum of 67 RJ's with 45-50+ seats. If I remember correctly the formula was for every 3 planes AA took, Eagle could take another RJ45-70. They have scooted around this issue with the ERJ-35 and now the ERJ-44.

I remember all this from 97 so it is kind of fuzzy and since I am a flight attendant and not a pilot I got most of it from eating with the crew on layovers, any AA pilots out there know for sure?

Cheers,
Mike-BOS








 
Airplanelover
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RE: American Eagle

Mon Dec 03, 2001 9:57 am

It wasnt made up for the last time!
The website I used is
beta.itasoftware.com
Type in SUX to TPA on the dates listed and u will see.
It was probably a glitch!

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