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Does Size Matter?

Mon Jul 26, 1999 4:27 am

Recently I have been down to London, and whilst there I had to go and pick up my friends sister from Heathrow. She was delayed and I decided to pay a quick visit to the observation area on the top of Terminal 2. Wow! What can I say! I had an amazing three hours! It was beutiful. I even got to see Concorde landing...What a magnificant peice of engineering.She was beutiful and so graceful! Unfortunately, because I wasn't planning to watch the planes, I forgot my supa-zoom camera. It would have made a gorgeous photo! It really would! But has anyone noticed how small concorde actually is? I imagined it to be a really long, elegant aircraft. Of course it is elegant, but I didn't realise how small it was! It had to pass a Malaysian Airlines 747 and it was tiny in comparason! It was even quite small compared to a regular 767! Any one ever flown on concorde? It's one of my dreams.
 
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RE: Does Size Matter?

Mon Jul 26, 1999 4:32 am

Hi

I flew on Concorde back in 1992.

All I can say is....what a fantastic experience!!

Regards
Gary Watt
Aberdeen, Scotland
 
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RE: Does Size Matter?

Mon Jul 26, 1999 4:33 am

Greetings again. I would like to say that I agree with your statement and I notice that you like planes.
 
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RE: Does Size Matter?

Mon Jul 26, 1999 4:36 am

The Concorde has range and capacity about equal to a B737-600. But, it is longer than an MD-11.
 
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RE: Does Size Matter?

Mon Jul 26, 1999 7:09 am

well the range on the concord is limited i think it can barely make it across the Atlantic
 
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Cocorde Range

Mon Jul 26, 1999 7:21 am

The range of the Concorde is 3740mi., wheres the actual mileage between JFK and LHR is 3455mi. Concorde has more than enough range.

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RE: Does Size Matter?

Tue Jul 27, 1999 1:43 am

my dad flew on pan am to london in 1985 on a 747 and he was parked right by the concorde.. he has this awesome pic of it! The concorde is extremely small, but it's wingspan is awesome. It may not have much range, but i think it's speed covers for that

*Camile*
 
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Your Pic

Tue Jul 27, 1999 6:03 am

Hi Camile

Let us see your pic on the site, and let us know when you have added it.

Regards
Gary Watt
Aberdeen, Scotland
 
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RE: Your Pic

Tue Jul 27, 1999 6:49 am

I flew the Concorde twice. One time with AF and once with BA. What an amaizing experience!!! You travel at an altitude that other commercial jets can not reach and the sky has an amaizing blue color. The take off in impressive with the aircraft accelerating gradually when you are airborne because of noise restrictions! I recommend everybody to take it once before they are retired in 2010. I know that it is expensive but airlines have these deals when you purchace a full fare business class ticket, your return is on the Concorde!! The service on board is very good and imagine a leather economy seat reclining as much as a classical business class seat and I think around 40 inch pitch....
 
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RE: Does Size Matter?

Tue Jul 27, 1999 7:05 am

I've never flown on a Concorde, but I've seen birds fly, I think that's pretty much the same thing, like they both have wings and stuff
 
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RE: Does Size Matter?

Tue Jul 27, 1999 7:57 am

will there ever be a replacement for the condord????
 
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RE: Cocorde Range

Tue Jul 27, 1999 9:08 pm

how does BA make its seasonal concorde trips from LHR - BGI?

-AA777
 
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RE: GoA340

Tue Jul 27, 1999 9:39 pm

I have such a trip booked. I fly LHR-JFK on 15th September on Concorde, have 4 nights at the Sheraton, a bus tour, a boat tour, a helicopter tour, Phantom of the Opera and return economy in a BA 747-400... all for less than the cost of a single Concorde trip.

It is expensive but it's something I've always dreamed of and if I don't do it soon it'll be gone. I've given up on getting to the moon.
 
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RE: GoA340

Wed Jul 28, 1999 3:41 am

I did something similar to David L above, three years ago. As an airline employee, I was able to obtain what's known as an ID75 on BA001 LHR-JFK. An ID75 is a standby ticket valued at 75% off the normal economy fare. Of course there is no such thing as economy on Concorde!

Being a standby passenger, I had no reservation, and no privilege over paying passengers. The day I wanted to travel, I was not able to get on the first two flights (they had one that departed at 10:30 AM and a second that departed at 5:30 [I think] PM). The day was so hot, they were WAT limited and could not take a full load of passengers. I tried again the next day after an expensive overnight at the LHR Hilton, and was successful. I sat at 8A, and thoroughly documented the entire flight.

As stated by all above, the flight was spectacular. I won't bore you all with the details here, but if you would like to hear all about everything about the flight, please e-mail me separately.

For those who may not get the chance to fly on Concorde, there is an EXCELLENT book called "The Concorde Story" by Christopher Orlebar, published by Osprey Aerospace. Its ISBN is 185532 6671. You will read about the development, flight testing, and day to day operation of one of the 20th centuries true masterpieces.

Thanks for the memories!

Best Regards,

Buff
 
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RE: Concorde Books

Wed Jul 28, 1999 6:06 am

I'd also recommend Flying Concorde by Brian Calvert, ISBN 1-85310-027-7, if it's still in print. It's written by a BOAC/BA pilot who was in on the flight testing and flew Concorde for BA for several years.
 
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RE: Concorde Books

Wed Jul 28, 1999 7:35 am

Indeed! Captain Calvert is mentionned in Orlebar's book.

Additionally, for anyone visiting the UK, if you would like to visit a most impressive exhibit, the Fleet Air Arm Museum in Yeovilton (in Somerset I believe) has Concorde #2 on permanent display. It is in Air France colours, and is in its test-bed configuration. One is able to go inside as well as underneath, around, etc. There is also a torn down Snecma engine. The developmental aircraft designed to ascertain pilot handling abilities on large aircraft with a delta wing concept is in an adjacent display. A complete written and photographic exhibit accompanies both aircraft.

Concorde #1 in BOAC colours is in a museum just to the north of London (I believe it is an old RAF base..)

A thoroughly enjoyable day can be had!

Best Regards,

Buff
 
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Buff

Wed Jul 28, 1999 7:42 am

So we can use the ID-75 tickets on Concorde?! How much was it total for the ID-75 Concorde trip?

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RE: Concorde Books

Wed Jul 28, 1999 8:33 pm

I visited the Concorde at the museum at Yeovilton a few years ago too. I still don't know why it's in a Navy museum but I didn't complain at the time.

Would the museum to the north of London be Hendon or Duxford? I've been to both a while ago but don't remember if there was a Concorde there or not.
 
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RE: ID75's

Thu Jul 29, 1999 2:35 am

It really depends on the airline you work for, and if they have an interline agreement with BA. At the time, mine did. I had to purchase the ticket in Toronto on my way over to the UK for my return flight. I had a letter of authorization issued me by my then employer which had been given to them by BA. When I showed the letter to the BA ticket counter at CYYZ, I gave them my Mastercard, they gave me the ticket!

The bad news: US$1500. One way. I got a bit of a break when they forgot to charge me in US$, so I paid C$. A difference of about 25% in 1996.

Re the museum north of London: Duxford rings a bell, but I'm still not sure. I'll try to find out for you.

Best Regards,

Buff

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