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Qantas 747SP's Being Dropped For A330's?!

Thu Dec 06, 2001 7:35 am

I've heard that Qantas are getting rid of there 747SP's and replacing them with A330's.....ca anyone tell me if there's any truth in this?
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RE: Qantas 747SP's Being Dropped For A330's?!

Thu Dec 06, 2001 7:46 am

Qantas have ordered A330's in the deal which involves the A380's
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RE: Qantas 747SP's Being Dropped For A330's?!

Thu Dec 06, 2001 9:22 am

One of Qantas's B747SP has been retired recently, VH-EAB. VH-EAA is scheduled to leave the airline in next Feb.

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RE: Qantas 747SP's Being Dropped For A330's?!

Thu Dec 06, 2001 10:32 am

The 747SPs and eventually all Classic 747s are being retired and A330s are being acquired as part of fleet renewal though replacement isn't one for one.

The A330s are for domestic operations primarily. 763s and 744s are the real replacements for routes previously operated by the SP.

Also slated for retirement within the next year are the 762s which will be replaced by the A330s and 738s.

As stated QF is now down to 1 SP (the other one retired at Marana) and it is not being used very much though it is doing a few domestic routes such as MEL-PER and a few int'l (SYD-NOU, SYD-HNL)
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RE: Qantas 747SP's Being Dropped For A330's?!

Thu Dec 06, 2001 10:38 am

While Qantas is to retire their 747sp's and 747-238's, I believe they plan to retain the 6 747-338's they have in their fleet. I even have it on good authority that Qantas plans to give the Classic 747-338's a major upgrade in the cabin, and boy do they need it.

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RE: Qantas 747SP's Being Dropped For A330's?!

Thu Dec 06, 2001 12:12 pm

If I were Qantas, I would replace the 747-300s with new RR Trent 500 powered A340-500/600s. They will have cockpit commonality with their new A330s.
 
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RE: Qantas 747SP's Being Dropped For A330's?!

Thu Dec 06, 2001 12:28 pm

The replacements of the B747-SP's (2) and B747-238B's (4) go unit-to-unit with their order of 6 x A330-300's which TEDSKI, have been ordered with GE engines LOL  Smile

The B747-338's don't do that much long-range stuff, only a few FCO and FRA flights. They are otherwise utilised on SYD-AKL, SYD-HNL, SYD-NRT runs and a few domestic runs as well. They're not that old either. The A340-500/600 would not be a real replacement for those routes, only the FCO and FRA routes would be suited to the 345/346 long-range suitability.

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RE: Qantas 747SP's Being Dropped For A330's?!

Thu Dec 06, 2001 12:35 pm

Coachman, the reason they went with the GE CF6 engine on their new A330s and 747-400ERs is because they have the CF6 engine on some of their 767-300ERs and a few 747-400s.
 
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RE: Qantas 747SP's Being Dropped For A330's?!

Thu Dec 06, 2001 12:45 pm

Tedski, or should I call you Rollski,  Wink/being sarcastic the reason QF picked the CF6 for the B744ER is because the CF6 engine gives QF the best payload/range performance. This is extremely crucial in QF's decision to purchase the B744ER. QF wants no seasonal payload restriction on its LAX-SYD flights. You must be disappointed to find out that RB211-524G/H-T isn't the best engine on the B744.  Laugh out loud
 
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Thu Dec 06, 2001 1:17 pm

Nothing against the RR RB211, I like the P&W 4000 series engine on the 747-400 & 767-300ER that has more thrust than the GE CF6 & RR RB211.
 
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RE: Qantas 747SP's Being Dropped For A330's?!

Thu Dec 06, 2001 2:52 pm

The P&W engines on the 767-200s are the worst out of the three types. TEDSKI the RB211 have more thrust the the P&W. Only a handful of airlines have 767's powered by P&W engines, so Qantas will have a hard time trying to sell them. The A300 was a far better aircraft with lower operating cost and a bigger payload.

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RE: Qantas 747SP's Being Dropped For A330's?!

Thu Dec 06, 2001 2:55 pm

VH-EAB 747SP was seen at Marana on December 2nd.
 
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RE: Qantas 747SP's Being Dropped For A330's?!

Thu Dec 06, 2001 3:11 pm

December 1st post

BON VOYAGE After more than 20 years of high-flying operations, a Qantas Boeing 747 SP (Special Performance) aircraft bade farewell to Sydney yesterday afternoon en route to Arizona in the USA where it is being sold for disposal. VH-EAB, under the command of Captain Wayne Spalding,
operated as QF7571 with a payload of freight but no passengers to Honolulu where Captain Bruce Simpson took command for the final leg to the Marana Airport in the Mojave Desert. The SP was delivered to Qantas on 31 August 1981 and notched up 69,469 hours and 15,098 cycles, operating initially on flights between Australia and Wellington before being switched to non-stop sectors between Australia and the USA West Coast.

The second Qantas SP aircraft, VH-EAA (delivered in January 1981) will be sold for disposal in
February next year. Qantas has also announced that it will retire five
B747-200 aircraft from April next year as part of the fleet renewal program
including 15 Boeing 737-800s, six Boeing 747-400 ERs, 13 Airbus 330s and 12 Airbus 380s, all scheduled for delivery over the next eight years.

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RE: Qantas 747SP's Being Dropped For A330's?!

Thu Dec 06, 2001 3:34 pm

Kai Tak and Qantas 747SP's

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RE: Qantas 747SP's Being Dropped For A330's?!

Thu Dec 06, 2001 7:27 pm

to the Marana Airport in the Mojave Desert

Hmmmm... I think this statement is a bit geographically challenged!  Big grin

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RE: Qantas 747SP's Being Dropped For A330's?!

Thu Dec 06, 2001 8:18 pm

Marana is not in the Mojave desert! Mojave is a separate facility in California - Marana is in Arizona.

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