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Lufthansa's North American Route Network

Sat Dec 08, 2001 11:02 am

I just checked out Lufthansa's revised winter schedule.

I was surprised to find cities such as ATL, IAH, DFW, and DTW to no longer be daily service.

If I am not mistaken, these cities were daily before 9/11.

PHX's new service which was added along with DEN is now only on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays (3 flights a week). It was daily before 9/11.

However, DEN remains daily. I'm a little surprised that they reduced ATL, IAH, DFW, DTW, and PHX while leaving DEN's service untouched.

Anyone know the reason why DEN's service has remained untouched?

I am quite surprised ATL, IAH, DFW, and DTW were reduced.

Anyone have any ideas?

For those of you who want to see Lufthansa's new revised winter schedule. Here is the link: http://cms.lufthansa.com/us/fly/en/gnf/0,1758,0-0-261192,00.html

Any help feedback would be appreciated.

Regards.
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BA
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RE: Lufthansa's North American Route Network

Sat Dec 08, 2001 11:09 am

By the way, does anyone know what Lufthansa flies to PHX? I know its an A340, but which version, the shorter A340-200 or longer A340-300?

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RE: Lufthansa's North American Route Network

Sat Dec 08, 2001 11:11 am

Colorado + Winter = Busiest time of the year
 
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RE: Lufthansa's North American Route Network

Sat Dec 08, 2001 11:27 am

All of the cities with reduction seem to be major hubs for LH/Star Alliance's competitors. Therefore, LH has to compete with the dominant carriers in all those cities.

With DEN, LH can at least take advantage of UA's feed.
 
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RE: Lufthansa's North American Route Network

Sat Dec 08, 2001 1:54 pm

ba: they fly the a340-300!
Come fly with US
 
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RE: Lufthansa's North American Route Network

Sat Dec 08, 2001 2:23 pm

Boeing 747-311,

Alright thanks. Although according to OAG, it says its flown on a A340-200.

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RE: Lufthansa's North American Route Network

Sat Dec 08, 2001 3:15 pm

PHX is an A342. LH's North American network (and someone correct me if I'm wrong here):

14x FRA-JFK
7x FRA-ORD/MIA/IAD/EWR/LAX/SFO/DEN/YYZ/YVR
7x MUC-ORD
6x FRA-ATL
5x FRA-IAH/DFW/PHL/DTW
3x FRA-PHX

Everything was at least daily or more before 9/11. They did replace a742s to the US, however, with 744s to MIA and ORD (though the 744 has only one more seat than the 742s, but with much larger first and biz cabins).

Currently suspended are:
DUS-EWR, MUC-EWR/SFO/LAX, TXL-IAD

Don't look for TXL-IAD to return anytime soon. MUC-EWR is on the scheds already for 01Mar02. The other three suspended routes look to be returning on 29Mar02. Also, rumours are flying that MUC-MIA/BOS will also be introduced in the summer.
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RE: Lufthansa's North American Route Network

Sat Dec 08, 2001 3:17 pm

Ooops! Completely forgot, daily FRA-BOS too. Also, the FRA-ATL cut (and also reduction from 343 to 342) was not due to 9/11. That decesion was made prior.
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RE: Lufthansa's North American Route Network

Sat Dec 08, 2001 3:30 pm

IAH no longer daily? That flight was 85%-90% full everyday. Why does LH operate mostly A340s through N. America and not operate more 744s?
 
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RE: Lufthansa's North American Route Network

Sat Dec 08, 2001 6:08 pm

Winter is hardly Colorado's busiest time of the month when it comes to this route. UA flies a daily nonstop on DEN-FRA during the summer in addition to LH's flight. UA's service is only summer seasonal. It's not like the only people who fly to Denver are skiers.
 
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RE: Lufthansa's North American Route Network

Sun Dec 09, 2001 12:57 am

The Denver-Frankfurt flight connects 2 Star Alliance hubs - thus, daily service is very very important to keep all of those connection possiblities alive; other hubs also maintained daily service while other cities that are not very important in the UA network, such as ATL and IAH, had frequencly reductions. I would guess that the summer season, which is busiest for transatlantic travel, will see the restoration of daily service on most of the routes.
 
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RE: Lufthansa's North American Route Network

Sun Dec 09, 2001 2:19 am

From ORD

7x ORD-MUC 747-400
7x ORD-FRA A340-300
 
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RE: Lufthansa's North American Route Network

Sun Dec 09, 2001 2:20 am

Whoooooops

sorry i switched the aircraft around! my bad

 
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RE: Lufthansa's North American Route Network

Sun Dec 09, 2001 3:26 am

IAD-TXL is in the schedule for resumption in March 2002
 
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RE: Lufthansa's North American Route Network

Sun Dec 09, 2001 4:20 am

747firstclass, only because the summer timetable has not been finalized yet. The "summer timetable" that you see for LH right now is last summer's timetable, which is why the only confirmed return so far is EWR-MUC (01Mar02). IAD-TXL is unlikely to return.
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