cedarjet
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Airliner Magazines

Wed Jul 28, 1999 1:29 am

Who reads Airliners or Airways? I think both are great, Airways (which came later) is probably the slicker of the two, although when the competition started, Airliners was better than it is now. A British rival is now on it's third issue, Airliner World (possibly better than either US mag, it's more industry focused and more down-to-earth, see next paragraph). Thing is, why are they so sycophantic? A ride on Tower is like Emirates and Eastwind is like Midwest Express if those "profiles" are to be believed. I think the existence of both titles are an elaborate ruse by their editorial staff to get lots of free tickets. I also read Pilot (sometimes), Flyer (sometimes), Aviation Week & Space Technology (subscriber) and Flight International (not a subscriber but read it nearly every week). Any thoughts on these publications?
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flyCMH
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RE: Airliner Magazines

Wed Jul 28, 1999 2:13 am

I try and read Airways and Airliners as much as possible (I know I should subscribe), and I think that both are very good. Their articles are always interesting and I like Airliners "Airliners' News" and Airways' "New on the Airways" and "Debrief" sections. I saw Airliner World Magazine the last time I went to the bookstore. It's not as "classy" as the two others, but is very informative, thought I wish they would also put prices in American Dollars as well and Pounds. I also like Aviation Week & Space Technology, and sometimes I will spend 2 hours in the library reading their articles.
 
FLY777UAL
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RE: Airliner Magazines

Wed Jul 28, 1999 2:27 am

Airliners has certainly become a much better publication since Airways went monthly! They actually have much better articles. The bad part is that Airliners mixes the articles in with the ads...I really hate that! Airways (I think) was a much better magazine before it went monthly. The articles are a pretty mixed bag, and (like you said), they can make even the worst airlines out to be the best (ie: Tower, Eastwind). I agree with you, Cedarjet, that they're just trying to get free tickets!

Aviation Week and Space Tech (I read at the library) is pretty good...they have some good commercial aviation articles, and some good military articles.

If you're into 'the trade' and more of 'running the show' v.s. 'flying for the show' (running and airline v.s. being a pilot) like I am, then I suggest Air Transport World. A friend found this for me in the FA ops in SFO. That is a really great magazine...they have almost every large airline in there with full page ads about their maintainence programs, etc. They also have many ads from Boeing, Airbus, P&W, GE, RR, etc. Like I said...that is a great magazine! (they have had a few ads in Airways mag before...full page, usually on the inside of the cover).

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flyaa757
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They Make $$$

Wed Jul 28, 1999 6:17 am

I subcribe to both Airliners and Airways. I think that these magazines(particularally Airways) have drum up quite a business in custome reprints(they just print an article up from the airline or bus.) It seems that many articles might be published with the anticipation of future $$$ in mind. I first noticed this with an article a while back on CO, and now every airline article seems to fit this description. Everything is about how good an airline is or how successful their turnaround has been. I truly love both mags, but I wish they were a little more 'honest.' Im from NY. I probablly know hundreds of people who have flown Tower. I never heard a positive word about the airline besides for reading the article. THe article failed to mention the long. long( I mean really long)lines(My 1 experience with FF), the safety issues, poor service, and high records of delays and lost luggage. I dont mean to single out FF as a poor airline, but lets be honest, it isnt close to being comparable to most other airlines. To put a positive spin on FF is not such an easy(or honest) thing to do...
 
danlauz
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RE: Airliner Magazines

Wed Jul 28, 1999 10:51 am

What about flight magazine ?
 
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RE: Airliner Magazines

Wed Jul 28, 1999 12:13 pm

I subscribe to Airways magazine. I read Airliners when Airways isn't at a newstand (which is frighteningly often in my hometown) and Airliners does not grab me as much as Airways does. I was surprised and pleased when Airways went monthly, I find a lot of their articles very interesting. Sometimes when a article is published (like TowerAir) the mailbag the next month is full of negative comments about the airline. This happened recently with an article on Ryanair, the Irish low-fare airline. Apparently from some letters the magazine received, Ryanair is a nasty little airline. Just from what I heard dropped their standing in my list several spots (but still above ValuJet/AirTran   ) They welcome people to become contributing editors, also for contribution to "New on the Airways" and short articles and the like. Airways I feel is... closer to it's readers, although with a 78,000 subscriber base.

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Gnomon
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Airliners Vs. Airways

Wed Jul 28, 1999 12:40 pm

Like many, I read both, and started reading Airliners about 6 years ago. It is disappointing, though, that, when John Wegg left to form Airways and Nicholas Veronico arrived, the technology behind each Airlines publication was shot to hell. Any look at an Airliners Magazine of a year ago will reveal many, many black and white pages, poor-quality photographs, NUMEROUS GRAMMATICAL ERRORS THAT ARE INSULTING, and an inferior typeface. Airways, in all those areas, has remained far superior, and while its content sometimes leaves something to be desired thematically, its layout and non-yeoman scientific approach is quite applaudable. Although airliner enthusiasts, as evidenced by Airliners, are not grammarians or computer graphics specialists and probably don't care like I do in my compulsion, I found Airliners deficient in very flagrant ways, and, with all due respect to Mr. Veronico, I look forward to Jon Proctor's revitalization of my first airline magazine.