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LHR T5, BA And The A380

Sun Dec 09, 2001 11:54 pm


A little something I was wondering about: With the recent decision to build T5 at Heathrow, it was decided that, while passenger numbers are allowed to grow to 90 million a year from the current 64 million, flight movements can only grow from 460.000 today to 480.000. This means that, in order to get to 90 million passengers, the average number of passengers per plane will have to rise significantly.

Won't this leave BA, as the biggest user of LHR, with no other choice but to buy the Airbus A380, despite them saying they don't need it? I mean in the longer term, after the current problems have been worked out?
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RE: LHR T5, BA And The A380

Mon Dec 10, 2001 1:23 am

I think that Ba should order the A380 regardless of the ammount of flight movements through LHR, because the A380 would be a good replacement for the 744's which by the time that T5 opens may need replacing.
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RE: LHR T5, BA And The A380

Mon Dec 10, 2001 1:31 am

I think we will see BA order the A380, but they will be cautious now, what with recent events as they won't want to alarm the stock market.
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RE: LHR T5, BA And The A380

Mon Dec 10, 2001 1:31 am

I'm not sure aiport restrictions have such a determining effect on an airline's operation, especially one as big as BA. I think market conditions, such as the coming of deregulation, have a greater impact on how an airline operates. And I think the market conditions will ultimately determine how aiports grow. But who knows?

BA's 744's are quite new,as are their 50ish 772's; they won't be replaced anytime soon. If they order the 380, it will simply be on its own merits.
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RE: LHR T5, BA And The A380

Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:28 am

BA will eventually have to go for the A380, while I don't think you'll see saunas and the like on board, the A380 will provide opportunities
for exhanced seating, entertainment and on board sales.
Branson won't be slow to exploit these, and sound off about BA's 'obselete' 744s.
If some 'white-tail' A380's became available, BA could even get some quite early.
But I expect the 777 to provide the mainstay of BA's long-haul equipment for the forseeable future. A380's could replace some 744s, but they'll still have plenty of them for years to come.
Remember, BA were operating 747-136's up to 2000.
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RE: LHR T5, BA And The A380

Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:31 am

I was wondering about the planned 90 M passengers given BA are downsizing.I'm surprised to see LHR-NRT being downsized right now.
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RE: LHR T5, BA And The A380

Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:34 am

do you think VS will still be around in 2007?Branson is having a few problems right now and open skies wouldnt help it too much.

RE: LHR T5, BA And The A380

Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:59 am

I suspect you'll simply see more movements of large aircraft (B747, 767, 777, A330, A340 etc) with the feeder aircraft (150 seats and fewer) disappearing.

This of course will cause some interesting logistical problems - how are people going to connect within the UK and Europe?  Nuts

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