rwy31r
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Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:20 am

I think it would be the 737-400, adequate range with good pax. capacity (and by know, cheap to buy).

What do you think?
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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:30 am

Used A320's
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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Thu Dec 13, 2001 1:38 pm

hmm...

National and the 757-200
Reno and the MD-80/90
Western Pacific and the 737-300 and ordered -700
Airtran and the DC-9/717/737
SW with the 737 family
ATA with the 727/ L1011
Air Cairo with the TU-214
Sun Country with the 727
JetBlue with the A320
PanAm with the 727
Vanguard with the 737-300 then -200 then the MD-80s

Sooooo many choices..so many different missions.
 
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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Thu Dec 13, 2001 1:40 pm

short-med haul B717
med+ haul 737-700
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Penguinflies

Thu Dec 13, 2001 1:45 pm

penguinFlies,

Im not too sure your up to speed with ATA's fleet. 737-800's and 757-300's have been added to the fleet while the L1011 and the 727's are slowly being retired.The 727 will stick around a bit longer as ATA just picked up a LARGE portion of Sun Country's flying.
 
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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Thu Dec 13, 2001 5:47 pm

If I was to start an airline, say running between ANC and SEA 1250 miles. I think I would initally go with the MD-80.

THe reasons are lower initial cost due to it being out of production. Large supply due to large fleet and large number or available airframes to scrap. That large number of airframes means that there should be a large fleet to choose from with also will hold down the price of the aircraft. It is fairly fuel efficent, and it is a reliable design.

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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Thu Dec 13, 2001 5:58 pm

I think for short to medium haul routes, the next generation of RJs will do the job.....

I'm referring to Fairchild-Dornier 728/928 JET and ERJ 170/190......

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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:39 pm

737-300 -700 -800
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Looking at the profitable low cost carriers globally, they are all based around these aircraft

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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:41 pm

Easyjet and Ryanair have proved the 737 business model works best in the UK market.
 
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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:44 pm

B737 - used by almost all successfull low-cost carriers!
 
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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Thu Dec 13, 2001 10:11 pm

The next southwest will be with CRJ 50-70's. Range, low cost, speed and low break-even load factors.
 
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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Thu Dec 13, 2001 10:16 pm

One problem though, Boeing discontinued making that. Now they only make the 737-600/-700/-800/-900.
 
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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Thu Dec 13, 2001 11:03 pm

The reason the 737 classics are popular with low cost carriers is that they are cheap to buy second hand and their operating costs are good.I expect to see more A32X being used by low cost carriers as they age.
 
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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Thu Dec 13, 2001 11:07 pm

I'd say second hand B737-300/-400/-500 (good availability and price) or B737-600/-700/-800 if a longer ranger is needed.

Anyway, a single aircraft type (with different series)would be what's best to keep operating cost as low as possible. The best example I have in mind would be Southwest.

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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Fri Dec 14, 2001 12:31 am

MD-80 family, definitely the best solution for low-cost flying. One of the advatages which makes it cheap is also cheaper ground service (stairs) and shorter turnover than 737.

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Rwy31R

Fri Dec 14, 2001 1:58 am

Not the 737-400. It would put you above 150 pax, which means 4 flight attendants. I'd say either a 717 with 99 seats or a 737-300/737-700. If you run a fairly high capacity route, then a 757.
 
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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Fri Dec 14, 2001 3:12 am

The reason the 737 classics are popular with low cost carriers is that they are cheap to buy second hand and their operating costs are good.I expect to see more A32X being used by low cost carriers as they age.

Also, 737's (even NG's) are lower to the ground and have a lot fewer bells and whistles which means quicker turnarounds and faster aircraft servicing.

Seems like Easy and Ryan have gone with the 737NG, as have the majority of European low-fare carriers. My guess is that Airbus hasn't shown a lot of interest in attracting the low-fare boys.
 
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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Fri Dec 14, 2001 3:22 am

Availability of affordable eqpt on lease is also a very important issue.

If i were to think of launching a carrier today, it would most certainly have to be leased.

So in that sense, even though the A32X family is my personal favorite, the 737-400's come out tops. Since they are cheap to lease, operate and maintain.

The NG 737s have better operating economics, but the recurring lease costs are going to be higher.
 
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RE: Best Acft. For Low Cost Carriers

Fri Dec 14, 2001 3:26 am

No doubt guys
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