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Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 6:50 am

I found this pic of a 747-200 at Rio de Janiero. Now I am just wondering, before the UN sanctions... how many people would need to fly between Baghdad and Rio de Janiero??? Anyone know any info about this? and did they serve and destonations in North America, or other far off places that you wouldn't imagine people from Baghdad would go to?

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SQ325
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 6:53 am

They travelled to the carnival parties.
In there own country their women have to wear a veil.
In Brasil these guys got so horny that they had problems to keep themselves under controll!
 
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 6:55 am

I wouldn't be surprised if this were a VIP or Government flight...Iraq was flush with pre-embargo petrocash in 1982 and there were probably more than a few honchos with the dough to hire a 747 to zip them to exotic Rio.

Another posibility ...apparently there is a large Middle Eastern expatriate community in the area where Brazil and two other countries meet in the southern Amazon basin.
 
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SQ325

Fri Dec 14, 2001 7:01 am

Yes, that`s why they travelled to GIG. Your post have explain it on a fantastic and funny way. Big grin Big grin Big grin

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RE: SQ325

Fri Dec 14, 2001 7:04 am

Seriously, I know that Brazil sold a lot of military equipement to Iraq. So my guess is that it was mainly
for bringing hardware to Iraq, not carry passengers.
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 7:11 am

Yes there is a large expat Arab community in Brazil mostly Lebanese, MEA and Royal Air Maroc also used to fly to the country Smile
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 7:44 am

SQ325. Women to not need to wear a veil in Iraq. Iraq is not an islamic extremist country merely a dictatorship.
 
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 7:52 am

Parra is correct. Iraq unlike other middle eastern nations is officially a secular country. Many women often wear western clothing.

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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 7:56 am

In Asia, they also served NRT at least, too.
 
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 7:59 am

They used to serve bangkok also and many destionations in Europe. Ryu2 is right, they did served Tokyo NRT.
 
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 1:58 pm

The reason why this route was opened was because there was a large Brazilian expat population in Baghdad (when Baghdad has an amazing night life), trade was flourishing between the two countries and Iraqi's were travelling abroad. Just for the record, Iraq has a secular government. Islam was never an issue in Iraq, most people were ok with whatever and everyone used to drink & have fun but, thanks to the war and the sanctions, Islamic extremism is on the rise in Iraq...

BTW: Iraqi women are powerful women, the majority don't cover themselves...
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 3:47 pm

Weren't the Iraqi 742's the 'C' version? IE, convertable to cargo. Could these flights have been arms deliveries?

I know that Chile sold arms to Iraq in the late 70s/early 80s...the Iraqi 742C's were frequent visitors to Santiago in cargo config.

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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 8:48 pm

Marco is right, there were many Brazilians working on contract in Iraq. Iraqi Airways normally flew with Boeing 707 with a stop in Lisbon.
 
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 10:47 pm

Somebody I know had a very bad experience with Iraqi Airways, just before the Sadam government went mad. She was living with her husband in Qatar at the time and was visiting her family back in Scotland. The best deal seemed to be with Iraqi who gave her overnight stays at a posh hotel in Bagadad on both the outward and inward journeys. But when she got to the hotel on the outward journey, they said the voucher was invalid so she spent the night sitting in the airport. Iraqi Airways in London dismissed her complaint and would not refund the ticket. She had to shell out on a BA single for the return. What b**t***s!
 
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 11:05 pm

oil?
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Sat Dec 15, 2001 12:29 am

The Iraqui Airways flight to Rio de Janeiro was routed Baghdad - Amman - Lisbon - Rio with 747-equipment as stated above, This was a once weekly flight in the late 70s early 80s. At the same time Iraqui had a flight to Barbados also routed via Lisbon. This was with 707s as aircraft in use. Both flights were scheduled flights. I have a ABC Worlwide flight schedule from 1979 as my source. I could be pursued to sell it - but it will cost you.
 
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Sat Dec 15, 2001 12:40 am

It's not Rio de Janiero, but Rio de Janeiro!!!!

And this happened many years ago, so there is no need to get surprised about it!!!

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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Sat Dec 15, 2001 12:49 am

A friend of mine took this flight in the early '80s. He thought it would be 'cool' to ride an exotic carrier. His carry-on always contained a camera and they made him hand it over for 'safekeeping' as he boarded the aircraft. He never saw it again. The airline personnel were mystified as to what happened to it and unwilling to help. He said the meal was atrocious as well.
 
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Sat Dec 15, 2001 1:14 am

Some time ago, the US also sold weapons to Iraq, and so did Europe and Russia and South Africa and and and...
 
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Sat Dec 15, 2001 6:35 am

Dear Yak42!
The Saddam Hussein al-Tikrit regime have always been
mad, since they took over big time 1979, there´s either
been war or preparation for war until UN crushed them
in 1991. The Iraqis where buying arms big time from Brazil, the Astro missle launch system which works like
a cluster bomb, 2 different versions of armed personell
truck was among the items they bought from Brazil.
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Sun Dec 16, 2001 2:27 pm

Nice livery, Shame it has dissapeared!!

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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Sun Dec 16, 2001 3:17 pm

G'day, AirNewZealand:

Never judge a plane by its livery! Some years ago, I flew with Iraqi Airways Bangkok to Baghdad. It was supposed to be a non-stop.

Fairly empty out of Bangkok, we stopped in Bombay and picked up a lot of (very poor) "guest workers" bound for Baghdad. Stopped again in Dubai and picked up some more. Passengers were actually sitting in the aisles!

Landing at Baghdad was fun. It was dawn, so many of the guest workers wanted to pray to Mecca - despite the cabin staff telling them that they had dispensation while they were flying.

We were banking and turning so much, no one could work out in which direction they should pray. It was fairly chaotic, but at least it wasn't dull.

Hooroo

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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Sun Dec 16, 2001 4:52 pm

So were glad there gone!! LOL!!

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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Sun Dec 16, 2001 9:10 pm

Dear Mariner! This must have been in the 1980ies?
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Mon Dec 17, 2001 3:02 am

Hey, Alessandro - yes, 1981, I think.

As an add-on, if the flight was "interesting", the arrival at Baghdad was worse. I was the only westerner on the flight, and customs and immigration decided to have some fun with me. 4 hours at Baghdad airport before they let me in (including a FULL body search).

Then, suddenly, it all stopped, they started smiling, shook my hand and wished me "welcome to Baghdad" as if nothing unusual had happened.

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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Mon Dec 17, 2001 3:18 am

Dear Mariner!
I know the feeling, been fully searched when I been leaving Ben Gurion, took a while...
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RE: Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...

Mon Dec 17, 2001 3:25 am

Back in the day, Iraq and Brazil were major trade partners. The Brazilians needed oil and the Iraqis wanted Brazilian arms. Judging from the results of the Gulf war, they sure didn't really do any good. In addition to arms, the Brazilians sent technicians and sold them alot of cheap Volkwagens and other shoddy goods. Not surprisingly, there were alot of Brazilian expats in Iraq and so it made sense for Iraqi Airways to serve GIG.