timberwolf24
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Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Sun Dec 16, 2001 4:36 pm

I have hear a rumor that Chicago Express-ATA Connection is looking to open 4-5 new cities mainly west of Chicago this spring. Do they have the aircraft to do this type of expantion or will they be adding more Saabs to their fleet and what cities are they looking at?
Living in LA, ORD/MDW will always be home!
 
RJX
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Sun Dec 16, 2001 11:35 pm

I wonder if one of those citys will be TVC. They use to fly in thier with thier J31's. It would be nice to be albe to go through MDW.
 
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Mon Dec 17, 2001 2:13 am

TVC  Sad  Sad  Sad

It makes me think of Boeing757fan who is no longer with us. Hopefully he is reading this.
 
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Mon Dec 17, 2001 5:12 am

Wish they would dump those lousy Saabs and get some ATRs or Dash8s, 30 seaters. What is the Saab 18 seats?
 
yow
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Mon Dec 17, 2001 5:16 am

The Saabs seat 33 or 34 depending on config. 18 seats? Heck a J31 can seat up to 19.
 
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Mon Dec 17, 2001 6:12 am

Whoa whoa whoa, ILS, what happened to Boeing757Fan? Wasn't he the guy from Michigan?
 
ILS
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Mon Dec 17, 2001 6:15 am

Yeah he got booted.
 
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Mon Dec 17, 2001 6:20 am

What did he do to get booted?
 
5280AGL
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Mon Dec 17, 2001 6:56 am

I have heard these rumors as well. As far as I know, the cities mentioned were Kansas City, Omaha, Louisville, and Columbus. Makes sense, all are large cities with no current ATA service of any kind.
 
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Mon Dec 17, 2001 7:25 am

I don't know I posted something in non av that got 50+ replies then was deleted.
 
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lindy field
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Mon Dec 17, 2001 7:33 am

Perhaps ATA Connection should pick up some RJs... but I imagine there's lots of props available on the second-hand market.
 
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Mon Dec 17, 2001 9:04 am


I agree with Lindy field. Chicago Express should pick up some RJ's to do medium-size cities that ATA does not serve. Even though there is a huge backlog of orders for RJ's, haven't some regionals been deferring their orders?

Anyway, the Saab 340 is a fine a/c. It seats 33 in the Chicago Express config. However if they're going to open new cities with those aircraft, they're probably not going to be very large cities, so forget OMA, MCI, and CMH. Those fall under the RJ category.

Boeing757Fan got booted? Gee, what a shame. Not.

 
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Mon Dec 17, 2001 10:35 am

What Chicago Express needs to do is start flying to some of the cities in Illinois....like Peoria, Moline/Quad Cities, Rockford and maybe Bloomington or Chanpaign/Urbana. Those citys have a lot of traffic to be had and some are large college towns...The could maybe try going to Cedar Rapids and or Waterloo....there are many shorter haul routes that could use an alternat to over crowded Ohare...Lets not forget that Sioux City has no direct air link to Chicago...only to St. Louis and Minneapolis.....so there are many possibilities...Yes and Traverse city would be good!!!

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CactusA319
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Mon Dec 17, 2001 10:40 am


Well if they were to keep the Saab's and expand they could do:

Bloomington
Champaign
Carbondale (no air service between Southern Illinois and Chicago)
Peoria
Moline
TVC (why not?)
Toledo
Evansville, IN

Anything farther than that should be done with RJ's I think.
 
timberwolf24
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Mon Dec 17, 2001 12:30 pm

It would be nice to see Chicago Express with RJs to open up more of the midwest market. As for the new cities I have heard they will be farther west than the rockies.
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Mon Dec 17, 2001 12:45 pm

Farther west of the Rockies with Saabs out of MDW? That would be cozy.

 
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Mon Dec 17, 2001 5:54 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that ATA serves any airport in Il. other than MDW. One or more destinations should be towns in Il with high-fare service to get some more political power. After that, serve the larger towns such as CMH or OMA.
 
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Tue Dec 18, 2001 3:53 am

Actually they recently started Connection service to Springfield, IL which is the state capitol.

 
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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Tue Dec 18, 2001 5:25 am

They're looking at Toldeo, Green Bay, Cedar Rapids.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Also talking to Flint, Lansing, Evansville, and Rochester MN..

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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Tue Dec 18, 2001 6:10 am

The only problem with using RJ's is that they tend to high-seat-mile costs. ATA is a low-fare carrier, and as far as I know, RJ's don't have low-enough seat-mile costs to be economical for a low-fare carrier.

ATA will probably have to stick to turboprops if it wants to do regional services and keep seat-mile costs low. The Saab isn't a bad plane as far as turboprops go, and they could get the Saab 2000 for a 50-seater. They'd probably not want to fly turboprops any further than say Nebraska to the west, Tennessee to the south, and Pennsylvania or Upstate NY to the east.

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RE: Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion

Tue Dec 18, 2001 6:14 am

I hope they look at CLE.