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FedEX To Order 10 A380s By This Month

Thu Dec 20, 2001 5:27 am

check this out:

from Flightinternational.com:

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18 December 2001

Airbus closes on A380 order target

PAUL LEWIS / WASHINGTON DC

FedEx -600 freighter confirmation brings total to 97 as manufacturer awaits second wave of commitments

FedEx Express is expected to announce by the end of this month that it has finalised its contract with Airbus for 10 A380-800 Freighters powered by the General Electric/Pratt & Whitney joint venture Alliance GP7000.

The order takes the manufacturer close to its stated end-of-year goal of 100 orders. The Fedex deal is the third for the freighter, which is understood to include an undisclosed number of options.

According to industry sources, FedEx has already inked the deal for both the aircraft and GP7000 engines, designated the GP7200 for the A380 application. Neither the airframe or engine manufacturer were able to confirm the deal, with FedEx declining to comment.

Finalisation of the deal comes almost a year after FedEx announced plans to order 10 aircraft with deliveries starting in 2008 at the rate of three per year with the final aircraft arriving in 2011. The FedEx GP7200 deal represents Alliance's second customer after a launch order from Air France.

The higher gross weight A380-800F will be powered by the GP7277, a 76,500lb (340kN) increased thrust version of the baseline engine. Of the nine customers to have so far announced orders or memoranda of understanding (MoU) to buy the A380, four - Emirates, International Lease Finance, Lufthansa and Qatar - have still to choose between the GP7200 and Rolls-Royce Trent 900.

Lufthansa's announcement earlier this month that it intends to order 15 A380s has raised the total number of orders and MoUs to 97 and around 69 options.

Airbus chief executive Noel Forgeard told French newspaper Les Echoes last week: "We should attain 100 around the turn of the year as I announced a year ago. That corresponds to the end of the launch orders with special conditions."

Airbus anticipates that there will be a period of inactivity before a second wave of carriers start to commit to the A380 in around a year's time, which it expects to include airlines from the USA and Japan and possibly British Airways. An unidentified commitment for four A380s previously listed by Airbus has now disappeared from the customer list.


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RE: FedEX To Order 10 A380s By This Month

Thu Dec 20, 2001 5:32 am

Great. Congrats to Airbus for their market study, they've reached their initial goal. The future looks bright.
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RE: FedEX To Order 10 A380s By This Month

Thu Dec 20, 2001 9:16 am

GREAT, Shame I'll have to wait another 5 years before I see them !!
 
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RE: FedEX To Order 10 A380s By This Month

Thu Dec 20, 2001 3:47 pm

This seems to be a very significant order. Airbus will achieve their sales target despite so much skepticism.
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RE: FedEX To Order 10 A380s By This Month

Thu Dec 20, 2001 4:20 pm

maybe this is a sign to other US airlines  Big grin

I would really like to see an United A380  Smile
 
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RE: FedEX To Order 10 A380s By This Month

Thu Dec 20, 2001 4:26 pm

That would be great! UA will need a replacement for their 744s. Not now, but in due course.
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RE: FedEX To Order 10 A380s By This Month

Fri Dec 21, 2001 1:37 am

"That corresponds to the end of the launch orders with special conditions."

Did Foregard ever spell out what the special conditions were?
 
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RE: FedEX To Order 10 A380s By This Month

Fri Dec 21, 2001 2:00 am

"Did Foregard ever spell out what the special conditions were?"
Publicly, no. Though I assume he is referring to the discounts Airbus was offering - 30% is believed to be the figure.
 
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RE: FedEX To Order 10 A380s By This Month

Fri Dec 21, 2001 2:27 am

30% off? Cool, now I can afford one! Do they have one of those 0% financing deals too?
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RE: FedEX To Order 10 A380s By This Month

Fri Dec 21, 2001 1:12 pm

The Fedex A380 order has always baffled me. The pax orders by VG, LH, AF, SV, QF are based on a combination of slot restrictions, marketing/image, national pride, unit cost reductions on those routes.

The Fedex A380's will serve routes largely without slot restrictions and/or with off-peak arrival/departure times. Also, the marketing/image issue is a non-starter with a cargo airline (or less so than a pax carrier). While there will be unit cost reductions on the flight segments replacing the MD-11's, cargo A380's will need alot of GSE (ground service eqt) to serve each A380 station.

I just can't see the numbers adding up for the A380. Fedex states that each A380 will replace 2x MD-11's. The MD-11's can then be used for future expansion....but Fedex just cancelled it's planned purchase of 19 ex-SR MD-11's....wouldn't a better option have been to take the 19 used MD-11's than 10 new A380's?

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RE: FedEX To Order 10 A380s By This Month

Fri Dec 21, 2001 1:16 pm

I remember there being earlier someone writing in about the airport at High Point, North Carolina, being remodeled to become FedEx's new eastern overseas base...an a380 base if you will...has anyone else heard anything about this?
 
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RE: FedEX To Order 10 A380s By This Month

Fri Dec 21, 2001 1:56 pm

"UA will need a replacement for their 744s."

Do They Really need to be replaced? If they want to cut capacity, they should replace the oldest ones with B777-300s or B777-300ERs.
 
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RE: FedEX To Order 10 A380s By This Month

Fri Dec 21, 2001 3:38 pm

Yyz,

First off, FedEx will still eventually acquire 15 more MD-11s, whether from SR or some other source, but they will come at a better price. FedEx will not pay a premium now for an aircraft we can't use for 2 years or more.

As for the A-380, which makes more sense to you, flying 4 MD-11s from HKG every day, or 2 A-380s? Flying 2 MD-11s MEM-CDG every day or one A-380? You're talking a huge reduction in cost, from fuel to crew to landing fees. The infrastructure only needs to be bought once, then you have it!
 
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RE: FedEX To Order 10 A380s By This Month

Sat Dec 22, 2001 2:34 am

FedEx wanted a freighter bigger than an MD-11. At the time of their first order, they said that the 380's three levels (what are usually 2 passenger decks, plus the lower hold) provide more floor space than the 747F. The 747F has higher ceilings which accommodate outsize cargo, but FedEx carries mainly small packages, so the space would be wasted.

On FedEx's statement, I expect both aircraft to remain in production for a long time, with the 380F having an edge as a package freighter, and the 747F, with its lift-up nose and high ceilings, having the advantage for big cargo.
 
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RE: FedEX To Order 10 A380s By This Month

Sat Dec 22, 2001 5:22 am

The a380's are going to be cool ... As a machanic my questions are... where in the US or the rest of the world will there be a hanger big enough for a a380 ? I'm sure all these questions were ask when the 747 first rolled out. If the a380's perfrom as well as the a300-600f's Fedex should make a lot of cash with them.
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