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So Whatever Happened To Muse Air?

Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:38 pm

I haven't seen any of their planes for a very long time.


Well?


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RE: So Whatever Happened To Muse Air?

Thu Dec 20, 2001 2:17 pm

They turned into Transtar, which was subsequently bought by Southwest, which disposed of all the MD-80s.
 
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RE: So Whatever Happened To Muse Air?

Thu Dec 20, 2001 3:07 pm

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RE: So Whatever Happened To Muse Air?

Thu Dec 20, 2001 3:15 pm

Right idea, wrong sequence.

MuseAir (MC) was purchased first by Harold Simmons, then in turn sold to Southwest.

Southwest changed its name to TranStar, painted the planes a rather snazzy dark blue, and moved the HQ to HOU (right near Hobby).


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It was to be the long-haul complement to Southwest, but CO cranked up its ops at Hobby as well, and the plan never paid off with returns like WN likes, so it was shut down with little fanfare in (check me on this) 1987.

They were awfully good; MuseAir was especially pleasant in its day, in that they were no smoking when the rest of the 'lines still allowed it.
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RE: So Whatever Happened To Muse Air?

Thu Dec 20, 2001 3:23 pm

I was just thinking about these guys the other day, used to fly them from HOU to DAL, because...no smoking on board. Of course at that age I didn't really care, just liked lookin at all the pretty lights,but my mom sure did. That was long ago. Way ahead of their time.
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Lamar Muse

Fri Dec 28, 2001 6:54 am

If he had been completely in charge instead of his son Mike, they still might have made a go of it. The PATCO strike also hurt them a lot at their start-up. I worked for them when they flew from DAL to HOU and MAF (Midland/Odessa, TX) and
TUL (Tulsa, OK).

Lamar was featured in the start-up ads of the airline and the ads said...
"Big Daddy is back" or something like that. Beautiful MD-80's, very classy !

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RE: So Whatever Happened To Muse Air?

Fri Dec 28, 2001 7:27 am

OK, guys, I did some research on this:

MuseAir/Transtar ex-aircraft:

DC-9-51's:
N670MC now with Northwest
N671MC now with Northwest
N672MC now with Hawaiian, stored at Mojave
N673MC now with Hawaiian, stored at Mojave
N674MC now with Hawaiian, stored at Mojave
N675MC now with Northwest
N676MC now with Northwest
N677MC now with Northwest

MD-82's:
N930MC now with Continental as N83870 stored at Mojave
N931MC now with Northwest stored at Mojave to be broken up
N932MC now with Continental as N83872
N933MC now with Continental as N83873
N934MC now with Continental as N92874
N935MC now with Continental as N93875
N936MC now with Continental as N98876 stored at Mojave
N937MC now with Continental stored at Mojave

MD-83's:
N938MC now with Continental
N939MC now with Continental as N14872 stored at Hobby

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RE: So Whatever Happened To Muse Air?

Fri Dec 28, 2001 7:27 am

Well a major theory of mine was shot down.

 
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RE: So Whatever Happened To Muse Air?

Fri Dec 28, 2001 7:33 am

Glad I could help, Matt.

BTW, my brother said it was so clear on Christmas they could see Mt. Baldy from near Escondido! Makes me homesick!

Happy holidays.

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RE: So Whatever Happened To Muse Air?

Fri Dec 28, 2001 7:35 am

Mount Baldy from Escondido?


Nah.....I think he was pulling your leg. There are a lot of hills and other mountains that would block the line of sight between Escondido and Mount Baldy. More likely if he saw anything, he might have seen Mount San Jacinto, which is near Palm Springs.

But it was a clear day, even though I was stuck at work.
 
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RE: So Whatever Happened To Muse Air?

Fri Dec 28, 2001 7:43 am

Probably was San Jacinto. We also had the clear skies on the 25th, but it was closer to 45 degrees that day. We've actually seen deicing trucks running around here lately.

As for Muse/Transtar, they folded up soon after I got here in '87. We miss the old purple planes around here, we still use their old club room at the airport for......ummmm....errr....executive suites, although with new airport security requirements we might renovate it for those purposes.

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RE: So Whatever Happened To Muse Air?

Fri Dec 28, 2001 8:34 am

I saw a little display on Muse Air/Trans Star at the Frontiers of Flight museum at Love Field this morning. It had a picture of one of their planes and a photo of Lamar Muse in front of one of their "no smoking" print ads. I believe the display mentioned that Southwest bought Muse Air in 1985 and that Trans Star was dissolved on August 9, 1987.

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Muse Air/Transtar Payout

Fri Dec 28, 2001 8:39 am

I also heard WN dumped all those MD-80s on Continental in exchange for gate space.
 
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RE: So Whatever Happened To Muse Air?

Fri Dec 28, 2001 9:11 am

My suspicion always was that the end of TranStar was the result of a deal between Southwest and Frank Lorenzo's Continental. As Sccutler said, MC (TranStar) had turned HOU into their hub (I remember the "Houston Hobby Is Our Home" ads) with flights to AUS, DAL, MSY, the West Coast, Florida, etc. CO's response was to build up their operation at HOU to pressure both TranStar and Southwest.

Once Southwest decided to shut down TranStar (and sell the MD-80's to CO), Continental scaled back their presence at HOU to basically just a few CO Express flights to IAH. Moreover, while WN has flown AUS-LAX, SAT-LAX, and MSY-LAX for quite a while, they only added HOU-LAX in September. They also stayed out of HOU-MCO non-stop until this fall. I don't know if Southwest picked up any gates at HOU aside from the old Transtar gates at the end of Concourse C - they've had all of Concourse A for as long as I can remember.