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Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 1:55 am

If there is one route that isnt served that u think is crying out for some airline attention, what is it? a/c type, frequency, carrier? There are so many, but, what needs instant attention!?

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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 2:48 am

I would like to see a FRA-SEA route introduced by LH or UA but I´m not sure whether there would be such a high demand (quite a lot european tourists who visit Washington and Oregon but what about Business and First Class ???).
Maybe some day.
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 2:55 am

UA has looked at a SEA-FRA, but the belief is it would take away from the SK SEA-CPH flights. Plus there are lots of connecting flights via SFO/LAX/DEN/ORD/IAD/JFK
A remote possibility it seems
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 2:56 am

I don't know that it is crying out for attention, but I believe it could be a profitable route. If KLM were to transfer one of their 747s into DTW from AMS into a DC10 into CLE, and have the passengers connect on Continental rather than NW. I think they would see some success. This would be mainly people looking to connect to other cities.

I say this would work, based on the fact that KLM is allied with NW which is allied with CO. It would be much easier to transfer through Cleveland than through DTW, as it is smaller, with less distance to go from gate to gate.

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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 2:58 am

NCL-FRA by LH CRJ/RJ85
NCL-CPH by BA ERJ145/DH8
NCL-OSL Wideroe DH8
Some of those maybe...
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 3:10 am

not only UA looked into SEA-FRA, also LH was studying SEA, in addition to PDX and SAN, however, PHX and DEN got the nod.
so it may be that some of these destinations will be served by LH in the next couple of years.

rgds
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 3:15 am

Columbus-Kansas City with Vanguard 737-200's or MD-80's or Southwest 737-300's or America West Express ERJ-145's

Columbus-Miami/Ft. Lauderdale with American Eagle ERJ-145's or America West Express ERJ-145's

Columbus-San Francisco/Oakland with America West A319's or United A319's
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 3:21 am

ALITALIA Airlines
Philadelphia-Rome or Milan
B.767-300
Daily

 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 3:36 am

Alaska seasonal ORD-FAI 737-700
Alaska SEA-ORD 737-700 or MD-80 or 737-400
Delta ORD-DFW 737-300 or MD-90 or something
United ORD-JAC A319 or so
UA/AA ORD-JAN CRJ, ERJ140?
UA/AA ORD-Cheyenne CRJ ERJ140?

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Frostbite
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 3:38 am

Let's get serious here...

How about linking the #1 & #4 busiest airports in the world....ATL & LHR.

The lack of route authorities between these two mega airports is to the detriment of hundreds of thousands of travellers every year.

You want to see a new route with big time economic impacts & competitive enhancements....watch what happens if ever DL & BA start running their 777s between ATL & LHR.

Far from benefiting Atlantans & Londoners only, this route would benefit droves of connecting travellers on both sides of the Atlantic. Not to toot my own horn too loud, but routes mentioned so far on this thread are pretty small potatos....
 
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Fri Dec 28, 2001 3:40 am

How about a once or twice weekly nonstop flight ARN (Stockholm Arlanda) to NRT (Tokyo Narita)?

The flight would probably be exclusively for me and why not ask JAL to use one of their beautiful MD-11s.

Nice topic!

Best regards, David.
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 3:59 am

SEA-FRA would workbut I would rather have DELTA or US Airways run this route. I see NW having success with this route since they have a large presence at SEA.

If I am correct, would passengers fly from SEA-YVR-FRA on LH. Code Share with Air Canada/Air BC SEA-YVR?

Personally I would like to see another carrier fly SEA-LHR and fight off BA. Virgin where are you??

 
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Fri Dec 28, 2001 4:00 am


Doubt you'll get many people in MAN's catchment area wanting to connect onto a LHR-ATL service if only for the reason there is an alternative: MAN-ATL by Delta which is doing exceedingly well...I wish they'd start a 2nd daily service soon!

As for instant attention for a route, perhaps from 14th January 2002, a weekly MAN-MRU service by Air Mauritius using an A340 (or perhaps make it 2 weekly given the route performance during the past summer?).

Next "new route" ought to be MAN-YYZ by bmi operating a minimim of 5 weekly services using their A330s.

Other MAN routes that should be okay:
JNB - South African 747? Though it's more likely to be bmi A330 (2 weekly)
MIA/LAX/JFK/DFW all by AA (all daily 767)
BOM/DEL by Air India or Indian Airlines (at least 3 weekly using A310s)
BAH by Gulf Air (2 or 3 weekly 767)
BGI/POS by BWIA International (2 weekly L1011 or whatever they pick)

David/MAN
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 4:01 am

I think London and Atlanta are already adequately served. For many, LGW is the airport of choice--particularly if London is your final destination.
 
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Fri Dec 28, 2001 4:09 am

Greg

If what you say is correct, why are airlines wishing to move from LGW into LHR?

David/MAN
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 4:59 am

New Orleans to London/Gatwick
* BA or VS, using B767-300 or A340 equipment
* Thrice-weekly seasonal nonstop service

New Orleans to Paris/CDG
*AF, utilizing B767-300 aircraft
*Thrice-weekly, year-round nonstop service

New Orleans to Frankfurt
* LH, utilizing A340 aircraft
* Twice-weekly seasonal nonstop service


Any of the routes listed above would make me very happy indeed. There is a market for direct Europe service from New Orleans. I hope some airline starts it one day.
 
Frostbite
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 5:02 am

If I'm not mistaken, AA suspended MIA-SEA....if that's so, well, that's a big time gap in service at two corners of the continental US.
I simply can't believe one flight a day on this route would lose money. But I guess AA would never have suspended it if it was a cash cow.

Either way, SOMEBODY ought to fly it. Does require a carrier that flies a/c with pretty long legs though....


 
Frostbite
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 5:13 am

Ok, like so many before on this forum, I put the horse in front of the cart, and said something before confirming the facts to back it up.

MIA-SEA is alive, though not burgeoning with flights. AA still flies 763s n/s once a day MIA-SEA.


ATL-LHR. That's my final answer
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 5:41 am

I don't know how much demand there is for any of these routes right now, but in the future, I would definately love to see:

-CMH-LHR on a British Airways 767 (a few times a week)
-CMH-MEX on an America West 757 or A320 (seasonal)
-CMH-JFK on a JetBlue A320 (daily)
-CMH-FLL on a JetBlue A320 (daily)

I would also like to see some (seasonal) flights from CMH to some warm tropical destinations such as Cancun, Nassau, Honolulu or maybe even Aruba.

FlyCMH: Do you think that there might be some demand for any of theses?
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 6:24 am

AA is suspending MIA-SEA and BOS-SEA in January because they are suspending SEA-NRT. I really do not think the suspensions will last long, in fact I think BOS-SEA is back this summer. Miami has non-stop service to YVR, SEA can easily fill up a daily 752 or 738. Other gaps, IMO...

Miami domestic:
We serverely lack intra-state flights! We need Sarasota (FLL does have Sarasota though), Naples, Gainsville, Pensacola, and Daytona Beach!
CMH, daily on AA or HP
SLC, daily on DL
SAN, daily on AA

International...
MIA-TLV non-stop (LY does have one-stop, but don't you think a city with the world's second largest Jewish population should have a non-stop?)
MIA-BCN (AA 763 or IB 762)
MIA-BRU (AA 763)
MIA-COR (this is coming early next year, finally!)
MIA-IQT (LanPeru A320)
MIA-GDL (IB 319)
MIA-MTY (IB 319)
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 7:15 am

Mah4546, thanks for the info....it suprises me AA is suspending the route. I take it they carried a lot of NRT-bound people on their SEA nonstop. Still, it seems like O & D alone would fill a flight or two per day, though perhaps not on 763s.
Definitely agree MIA-SLC ought to happen on DL. However DL has virtually halted east-west flying that does not involve an eastern hub city.
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 7:19 am

i think alitalia should fly to phl as well, along with other new international airlines flying to phl too.
 
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Fri Dec 28, 2001 7:44 am

Frostbite, IMO, we will non-stop see service between Miami and SLC in 2002, though from FLL, where DL has a major presence. DL's current two daily Miami-SLC flights, one each from MIA and FLL, both 764s, have stops in ATL. I still don't get why DL flies FLL-DFW three times a day, two of those with 767s, and no FLL-SLC. DL is huge in the Miami area, and they are basiclly giving all those skiers up to American (DEN and EGE) and UA (DEN). The SEA-NRT flight was actually a continuation of MIA-SEA. The flights were both started at around the same time, and the SEA-NRT sometimes got more than half of it's loads from MIA and another 20-25% from BOS. There are some rumours that when the economy picks up again, though, we will see non-stop MIA/BOS-NRT service. I would definitley like to see that. There is demand. My opinion? Daily 738 on Miami-Seattle on AA (and it was also an AS codeshare) by next June. No way they are going to give all those cruise passengers up to AC's MIA-YVR flights.
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 7:49 am


Surprised no-one's come up with these lucrative (?) routes seeing that the proposed airline has postponed their plans:

Prestwick-Portsmouth
Prestwick-Baltimore
Prestwick-Hamilton

After all, why would someone decide to fly these routes unless there was some enormous demand for them!

David/MAN
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 9:20 am

America_West: I believe that some of the routes you mentioned could work. Flights between Columbus and London, as well as Frankfurt, have been a goal for the Columbus Metropolitan Airport Authority for several years. The closest Columbus has ever seen to nonstop service to London was a short-lived codeshare between America West and British Airways, where CMH passengers would travel to PHL on America West, and then connect onto a British Airways flight to London. I believe America West and British Airways still have a codeshare partnership, so if America West were to expand their Columbus hub to a point where a sufficient amount of connecting passengers would be traveling across the Atlantic, I could see daily service to London with British Airways, as the combined O&D demand in addition to connecting traffic would most likely be able to support the route. Though surprisingly enough, the most popular international destination from CMH is Tokyo, Japan. The main reason is because many Honda executive in Marysville travel to Japan from CMH throughout the year.

Flights between Columbus and Mexico City would be nice, however as with London, more connecting passengers would probably be needed to make the route profitable. Columbus' Mexican population is growing, and I'm under the impression that there is a healthy amount of business conducted between Ohio's capital and Mexico's, however it probably isn't enough demand to warrant nonstop flights. Both Delta's hub in Cincinnati and Continental's hub in Cleveland, which are both much larger than America West's hub in Columbus, don't even have nonstop service to MEX.

Service to the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area is a definite necessity from CMH. With the two cities combined, over 500 people fly daily between Columbus and Southwestern Florida. Miami is also the country's top airport for flights to Latin America. Governor Taft has strongly encouraged increased trade between Ohio and South America, and nonstop service to the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area would help immensely. If an airline were to start flights to MIA, FLL, or both, it more than likely would not be with jetBlue. As of now, their main focal point is feeding passenger traffic into their JFK hub. I could only see jetBlue flying nonstop CMH-FLL flights if they were to start a Delta Express-type operation in Florida, where flights would mostly connect the Midwest to Florida. To Ft. Lauderdale, service would probably be flown by either Southwest, Delta Express, or America West. If Miami service were started, it would probably be with either American Airlines or America West.

I think CMH-JFK service with jetBlue isn't a matter of if it will happen, but when. Columbus is on the airline's list of possible cities, and Columbus currently does not have nonstop flights to JFK. Currently, however, there isn't any room at CMH for a new airline. Once the Concourse C expansion is completed, seeing jetBlue's A320's in Columbus is definitely possible.

I too would like to see some more tropical seasonal destinations from CMH. A definite way to get more flights between Columbus and the Carribean would be with charter operators. Currently, CMH's charter traffic is severely lacking, with only one Sunday nonstop to Cancun. I would like to see charter traffic to Punta Cana and Puerto Vallarta.
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 10:46 am

FlyCMH, I would not rule out jetBlue for FLL-CMH. I don't think it will happen, but jetBlue does plan to start many new routes out of FLL. They already have JFK and IAD (12 daily flights in all), and LGB is just around the corner. They are also looking at SJU, NAS, and AUA, among others, as well as a possible FLL FA base. jetBlue has big plans to create a sort of "hub" system at JFK, LGB, and FLL.
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 11:06 am

jetblue planning any routes to phl?
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 11:08 am

PDX-NRT
PDX-SEO
PDX-FRA
PDX-JFK
PDX-BOS

These are very realistic in my opinion-all ecept FRA have been served in the past and with the right marketing, flight times etc, no doubt these would be profitable again (they were at one time)
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 1:00 pm

TPE-PEK 3x daily
TPE-SHA 4x daily
KHH-PEK daily
KHH-SHA daily

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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 1:21 pm

MEL-Johannasburg, South Africa
MEL- Port Moresby , PNG
MEL- Tokyo , Japan
MEL - South America

Just my opinion

ciao
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Fri Dec 28, 2001 4:06 pm

PDX-NRT
PDX-SEO
PDX-FRA
PDX-JFK
PDX-BOS


SEO should be ICN (Seoul)

There are no long-haul flights out of PDX is because these racist PDX customs.
 
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Jiml1126

Sat Dec 29, 2001 3:23 am

That problem has been taken care of-plus, that problem would not affect domestic flights
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Sat Dec 29, 2001 8:09 am

Usairways85: Philidelphia is not currently on their list of future cities however, Pittsburgh is.

FlyCMH: Thanks for the reply. I never would have thought that the number one international destination from Columbus would be Tokyo!

 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Sat Dec 29, 2001 9:31 am

what airline is not curently on the future list to surve phl, alitalia. they want to surve pit. does pit even have any international flights besides usairways.
 
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Sat Dec 29, 2001 12:33 pm

USairways, jetBlue, not Alitalia. I would not expect AZ in PHL any time soon. PHL already has US service to FCO, and AZ is not that big in the US anyway. They only have six daily flights to the US to only five cities (Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles, Miami, and New York). All those destinations have been served for at least 12 years now.
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Sat Dec 29, 2001 1:07 pm

MSP-LGW BA 777-200
MSP-CDG NW A330-300 or AF A340-300
MSP-FRA NW A330-300 oe LH A340-300
MSP-LAX-SYD NW 747-400
DTW-LAX-AKL NW 747-400
CMH-NRT NW 747-200
MSP-CPH NW A330-300 or SK 767-300
MSP-ARN SK 767-300
MSP-HKG NW 747-400
That is my wish list.
 
usairways85
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Sat Dec 29, 2001 1:36 pm

oh ok now i understand. i wish jetblue would fly to phl but since it is so close to its hub at jfk i doubt phl will see jetblue too.
 
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Sat Dec 29, 2001 2:47 pm

USAirways85: The only PIT international flights are of course the US A-330 PIT-LGW, PIT-FRA, and, even thought this route was canceled after 9/11, they still occasionally sneak in a PIT-CDG flight. US Airways also does a twice weekly PIT-CUN service. As for other international stuff, ever since BA pulled out of here, we have been left with our only international airline (AC) with service to YYZ.  Sad

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Sat Dec 29, 2001 4:22 pm

United CLE-SFO
United CLE-LAX
KLM CLE-AMS
CO CLE-MEX
CO CLE-NRT
CO CLE-SAN
JetBLue CLE-JFK
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Sat Dec 29, 2001 7:10 pm


I wonder why there is no flights between Tunis and
New York,Montreal,Johannesburg,Hong Kong and Osaka.

TunisAir would pionner these routes with some A330s
or B777s !!!
 
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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Sat Dec 29, 2001 9:03 pm

I will have to agree with some others. A daily Amsterdam - Cleveland service is very well possible. It would not be too hard to fill a daily AMS-CLE vv with a CO 757-200 (if they have the range) or 767-200.

Furthermore I would like to see AA come to AMS with a daily service to ORD.

regards

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Sat Dec 29, 2001 9:06 pm

MAN-LCY a.s.a.p.
MAN-BUC Mon-Fri Tarom 737s
MAN-BOS, perhaps DL should transfer their LGW-BOS which I am told is doing appallingly. It could continue on as one of their transcon services with Biz Elite to LAX
MAN-SVO Mon-Fri BA 735 or 319
MAN-CMN RAM 737 3x weekly
MAN-LOS VS 742 3 x weekly
MAN-JNB/CPT BMI 330 3 x weekly
LPL-LCY A city the size of Liverpool deserves a proper link to the capital, not just to Bedfordshire.
MAN-RUH 4 x weekly
MAN-YYZ BMI 330 Daily
MAN-BJS CA 772 4 x weekly (MAN has one of the largest chinese communities in Europe)
MAN-DFW AA 763 Daily
MAN-MIA AA 763 Daily
MAN-IAH CO 762 Daily
MAN-INV Double daily BRAL Emb145


I'm sure there are more  Smile

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Sun Dec 30, 2001 12:54 am

man-phl, bmi
lax-phl, aa
mco-phl, delta
dfw-phl, delta
bos-phl, airtran
zrh-phl, anyone
many more
 
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Sun Dec 30, 2001 1:09 am

2 routes:

1) KL/PY 713/714 AMS-PBM-AMS (KLM/Surinam Airways joint-venture operated with KL 743) have to be a DAILY service!!!

there are now 4 flights a week, too less for all the people who want to visit Surinam, a country that is receiving more tourists every year, especially since the new gouvernment has taken place in Paramaribo since 2000. And especially for the large Surinamese community in the Netherlands, who are still in much contact with the former Dutch Colony. KLM is the only possibility if you want to visit Surinam, since Surinam Airways is a subsidiary of the KLM. I think KLM is abusing this monopoly-position this way. I think PBM can be a excellent airport for transit flights to South America, for Airlines like UAL, Lufthansa, Iberia and BA.

If the KLM don't want to be considered as a thief (what they already are for the Surinamese community in Holland), they have to make their route to PBM a daily route.

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2) It's a real pity that there are no direct flights from Amsterdam Airport Schiphol to Sydney or Melbourne, and that for the 4th largest airport in Europe!! KLM suspended their direct services to Sydney begin 2001, and KLM is operating now code-shares from KUL with partner Malaysia. I think 3 airlines have to consider direct routes from AMS to Australia, mostly Sydney, but Melbourne is also possible:

A: Qantas, via BKK or SIN
B: Martinair (see my opinion about them in the topic "Martinair Status")
C: KLM re-opens their routes to Sydney

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Sun Dec 30, 2001 1:32 am

MHT-LGA/JFK. With only 4 flights a day to EWR on 735s and the occasional ERJ-145, some service to the other two major New York airports would be appreciated to relieve us of US Airways Express (Delta is fine, no AA though after they dropped MHT-LGA).

Jeff
 
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Sun Dec 30, 2001 1:38 am

some more....

not only Qantas, but also Varig, South African and Thai should come back to AMS!!

and airlines like Air Mauritius, Royal Brunei and Vietnam Airlines are more than welcome at AMS!!
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Sun Dec 30, 2001 1:54 am




CVG-Munich Delta 767-300ER
CVG-DUB DL 767-300ER or 757-200
CVG-Moscow DL 777-200 or 767-400ER
CVG-HNL DL 757-300 or 767-300ER


I think those would be pretty good money makers in the Business market and the Leisure markets.
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Sun Dec 30, 2001 5:15 am

Two routes from PIT that I am surprised have not been started are:

PIT-DEN on United (UAL has discussed starting this route for years with PIT and I would think there is nearly a 100% chance of this working. I am starting to think that PIT is the biggest city without a direct United connection to the DEN hub.)

PIT-MCO on either AirTran or DLX (Both Delta and AirTran have been bouncing back and fourth as the 2nd and 3rd largest airlines in PIT and I am surprised that US Airways still has a monopoly on the route ever since Pan Am III dropped its PIT-SFB route. All PIT-MCO US Airways flights I have been on are ALWAYS filled to capacity and very often overbooked. I believe that AirTran or DLX could easily fill 2 daily flights to Florida.)

By the way....does any one know if the PIT-MEM Northwest flights were cancelled? I guess they needed the CRJ's elsewhere.

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RE: Unfilled Routes...

Sun Dec 30, 2001 5:21 am

I think here in phx, we need some trans-pacific routes, bc we now have2 trans-atlantic, but no trans-pacific and i think thats what we need here in phx!
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