MAH4546
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No JFK-LGW?

Fri Dec 28, 2001 5:34 pm

What's this? There are no JFK-LGW flights? I know BA dropped the route after 9.11, but I though DL had a daily JFK-LGW flight. I would think there would be at least one JFK-LGW flight, even though LHR is clearly the more popular airport. I know that LHR is the perferred choice, but I still find it odd to see cities like Washington, Los Angeles, and Chicago without flights to Gatwick. Of the LHR cities, it appears only half of them, Boston, Philadelphia, Miami, Detroit, and Newark have LGW flights (and in three of those five cases, it is because they are a major hub for an airline without Heathrow accsess).
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Arsenal@LHR
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RE: No JFK-LGW?

Fri Dec 28, 2001 11:35 pm

Delta doesn't fly LGW-JFK, they fly BOS-LGW. I'm not sure really. i think Delta should have a go at JFK-LGW. After BA dropped this route, i think Gatwick desperately needs a flight to JFK. You're right, Mah4546, i find it very strange there are no flights from Gatwick to cities like Chicago, washington, LAX, SFO. Maybe AA should look into ORD-LGW or LAX-LGW. Just my opinion though.

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blink182
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RE: No JFK-LGW?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 3:19 am

I thought AA operated ORD-LGW actually, and then they got rid of another LHR route, but dropped it.

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gkirk
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RE: No JFK-LGW?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 8:23 am

No LGW-LAX/ORD/SFO etc because airlines (BA,VS,UA,AA) op to these from LHR.
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MAH4546
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RE: No JFK-LGW?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 8:28 am

Gkirck, obviously, but it still seems odd. It seems like the only airline that can fly a route to LHR and doesn't is VS on the MIA-LGW route.
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ContinentalEWR
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RE: No JFK-LGW?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 9:49 am

American does not fly ORD-LGW. They fly DFW-LGW and RDU-LGW. For a brief time, they had BOS-LGW and when they first acquired TWA's London routes, they did operate a JFK-LGW flight but that was quickly dropped.

The only real JFK-LGW route was the old British Caledonian service, which became BA's after 1987 when BCAL was acquired by BA.

All other airlines in the JFK-London market use Heathrow (VS, BA, AA, UA, Air India, and Kuwait Airways).

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ripcordd
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RE: No JFK-LGW?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 10:08 am

AA had ORD-LGW a couple summers back only for like a month it depart around 10pm....
 
flightsimfreak
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RE: No JFK-LGW?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 10:10 am

When I first saw the title of your thread, I read it as JFK-LGA... I said to myself, "lemme tell this idiot off." Humm, dyslexia I guess.
 
TOMASKEMPNER
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RE: No JFK-LGW?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 12:29 pm

There are ATL-LGW, EWR-LGW, DTW-LGW and PHL-LGW because are hubs of DL, CO, NW and US.

Their connecting passengers don´t have the chance to choose between LHR or LGW, except for those travelling through EWR because CO codeshare VS EWR-LHR flight, but still not much of a chance.

Try getting a ticket MSP-DTW-LHR, the MSP-DTW leg on NW and the DTW-LHR leg with BA and it will be very expensive, its cheaper is its all NW flights.

The question here is why VS flies to LGW from MIA instead of LHR ?, maybe no slots available ???

I think that DL people are smart and they know a JFK-LGW will not succeed, specially with competitors as AA, BA, VS, DL, AI, and KU. The last two are not as important as AA that has quite an impressive hub at JFK.
 
MAH4546
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RE: No JFK-LGW?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 12:37 pm

TOMAS, I think VS flies MIA-LGW because there is a market. The Miami-London route is huge on business travelers (which is why BA axed MIA-LGW last year and made double-daily MIA-LHR), but Virgin aims at tourists on thier MIA flights, and tourists seem to perfer LGW. They also enjoy the route without compieitition, and LGW-based 744s have larger coach cabins, which is good for such a high density route. BA and AA both use thier flagship aircraft on MIA-LHR with the most premium seats and take the business travelers. But it seems so odd that VS's MIA-LGW service is the only Gatwick service done "by choice". I hope it stays that way.
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